i'm pissed off.....

[drew_goring]

Agree... as a new guy here this whole thing kinda gets me feeling like I might have to walk on eggshells. I like the board and would hate to make a mistake and be kicked off. Let's see what happens.

It's not the fact that he made a mistake. Honestly, think about it. Your first post on the board is selling some very exclusive and expensive cigars. Then you go and insult the membership and don't offer any sort of apology or explaination??

There is a difference between trolling becoming a member. You don't have to 'walk on egg shells'.

[PartagasGuy]

I don't think that friends should have to worry about what they say to each other...so Shelby07, I think you're fine. I wouldn't worry about walking on eggshells if I were you.

On the other hand, I only offered some very good and expensive cigars for best offer. I came here only because I thought you guys would appreciate them at a place like this. There is a time and place for everything and I guess I learned that this isn't the place.

How many fucking times do I have to say sorry.

Can I change my handle and start over again? FUCK.

[mauied1101]

I can understand your POV BPP, but you're pretty much the only guy he's coddled up to.

Shelby - you didn't come into the forum and start mouthing off on your third post. PartyGas has not been treated differently in any other respect - from the perspective that he posted in the wrong area without permission.

PartyGas - honestly, you came in and innocently posted in the wrong forum without permission. And that's ok - you got some lumps, and that would have been it. You should have apologized - and then shut up for a couple days to let things cool off. The more you egg people, the more they will egg you. And the folks have here been longer and are more numerous.

You did not win brownie points with your third post comment:

...snip...BTW, get a life fellas...snip..."

followed by your fourth post

I would love to know what "Vice-Member of the month" means? Does that mean you're self-appointed "Ass-hole-of-the-month"?

And it went down hill from there.

You were warned and asked to apologize by Basil, CC, BigMac, BPP, me, Hex, BPP, Lopaka, BKC, (and that's up to post #60)...BPP @ #72....

You did not hint any remorse or apologize until (from what I see at) #153 but did it in a backhanded approach after the polling started:

Most of you have been pricks...but I guess that's what I get for not doing research or taking the time to find out what this forum is all about...with that said, I'm sorry.

Followed by:

That's great illilli...Go smoke some crack with your former mayor Barry...

so when you ask after that:

How many fucking times do I have to say sorry.

The answer is just ONCE. Without backhanded slaps, will full humility, and no smart ass remarks.

BPP - I completely respect you as a FOG on the board - but I respectfully disagree that the board has jumped the gun - he's been given plenty of chances - and he chose the wrong fork in the road every time.

[PartagasGuy]

Hey 1101...I agree with you. The first 90% of my time here ended up being a clusterfuck...with me to blame. Believe me when I say that I did honestly try to apologize not long into my time here and something came across the wrong way and it backfired. Sometimes I forget that words on paper or words on a computer screen doesn't have a sound of sarcasm like a voice does. I have the same problem with a girlfriend of mine who lives in Pittsburgh...but that's for another time and another place...

Enjoy a good smoke this weekend and make it a great one!

[Shelby07]

With all due respect... imagine what might have happened if the reply to him was something different.

"PartagasGuy - thanks for letting us know about the cigars you have for sale. They are good ones.

We like to keep things a bit more compartmentalized here on this board. I've moved your thread to the appropriate forum. Take a look at the board policies that we have posted for your benefit.

Welcome to the board."

All I'm saying here is that it could have been handled differently on both sides, and I think the results would have been much different. As a new member I might be out of line, but as an old guy I like to believe I've learned a bit about tact... not always easily.

Mark

[bigpoppapuff]

i seem to have engaged partyguy in conversation......he's responded...why don't we all cut this guy a break...realizing that we're giving him a piece of rope...my bet is he'll not hang himself.....shelby is 100% right on this call......this wasn't habano boy or some of the real asshats that have shown up here...this is a guy who tried too hard to play without reading the rules....he's fine with me....anyone other than shelby and joe with me on this call???....

[ggiese]

Shelby - you've not been here long enough to have an opinion. You haven't even established yourself either. And CLEARLY you don't understand on how many levels Pee-boy destroyed his credibility... From selling a box of cigars he won as a prize (and wanting us to make offers - going to the highest bidder) - to taking exception to the criticism given him - to all out flaming and acting like a total ass.

Nope - Sid - I pretty much think it's just you in this quest. Pee-boy still is acting like a fool with his assinine apology "How many fucking times do I have to say sorry."

Pee-boy - One apology would have been plenty, if you would have been sincere... And you knew this point was eventually coming. You've dusted things up pretty good around here in the short time you've been posting. Seeing everyone coming out of the woodwork should have been a clue to you...

[Shelby07]

Shelby - you've not been here long enough to have an opinion. You haven't even established yourself either. And CLEARLY you don't understand on how many levels Pee-boy destroyed his credibility...

This is kind of what I've been afraid if. Guess it's time for me to shut up and go away too. But it is clear to me that no matter what anyone says, there are some on this board who have made up their minds and will push it forever.

Bigpoppapuff... I'm starting to see why you were pissed.

BTW: His handle is PartagasGuy, not Pee-boy. Tell ya anything?

See ya!

[drew_goring]

With all due respect... imagine what might have happened if the reply to him was something different.

"PartagasGuy - thanks for letting us know about the cigars you have for sale. They are good ones.

We like to keep things a bit more compartmentalized here on this board. I've moved your thread to the appropriate forum. Take a look at the board policies that we have posted for your benefit.

Welcome to the board."

All I'm saying here is that it could have been handled differently on both sides, and I think the results would have been much different. As a new member I might be out of line, but as an old guy I like to believe I've learned a bit about tact... not always easily.

Mark

When somebody comes here and their first post is selling exclusive cigars, then they are automatically labelled an asshat until proven otherwise. I can tell he is really trying hard to prove otherwise

[tampacigargirl]

All I'm saying here is that it could have been handled differently on both sides, and I think the results would have been much different. As a new member I might be out of line, but as an old guy I like to believe I've learned a bit about tact... not always easily.

Shelby - you've not been here long enough to have an opinion. You haven't even established yourself either.

...snip..

Pee-boy - One apology would have been plenty, if you would have been sincere... And you knew this point was eventually coming. You've dusted things up pretty good around here in the short time you've been posting. Seeing everyone coming out of the woodwork should have been a clue to you...

I do see Bigpoppapuff's point. I don't think jumping on the new guys (gals) who haven't shown them to be asshats or trolls is the way to encourage participation, nor does it give us a reason to form a possitive opinion of you. Shelby and I are new here, our posts will eventually establish what kind of online personalities we are, but we do have opinions.

Sometimes you need the hide of a Rhino. Everyone one has moods and opinions. I hope to see you around Shelby.

Even if PartagasGuy shapes up, it'll be along time before I have a more favorable opinion of him. I voted not to ban him, but that's not to say that my opinion won't change if he continues to act the troll and asshat. It's a little late for a sincere apology... even without backhanded slaps an apology is something that has to be volunteered, not coerced.

damn... now I need a cigar

[Newfie]

snip....Even if PartagasGuy shapes up, it'll be along time before I have a more favorable opinion of him. ....snip

Well said CG.

I too can see BPP's point, and that of those that agree with him. But I voted to ban him and I don't feel right changing that. He had many chances early to change his way and he didn't. Now if you look at his latest posts, they're freekin dripping of sugar. Kissin' ass isn't what's required here. IMHO, it's a "Hey people, I ed up. Give me a chance to make good on this". If he had done that, I think the vote would never have happened.

If the majority vote to forget it or a 30 day ban, I'm cool with that. Democracy rules.

Peace.

I'm going out back to finish up my gazebo and .

Later!

Newf

[Drake]

i agree with you, sid.

[illilli]

I think all you have to do is read this information about trolls and then make your judgement:

LINK

[SmokinDVM]

I think all you have to do is read this information about trolls and then make your judgement:

LINK

This was taken from your link, and I think it fits this situation also, as well as my own experience on several BB's.

In forums where most users are similar to each other, outsiders may be perceived as trolls simply because they do not fit into the social norms of that group. It can sometimes be difficult to distinguish between a user who merely has different values, views, or ideas, and a user who is intentionally trolling. This can lead to genuinely hostile behavior, including flame wars.

I think it's sad that this BB attacks and scrutinizes "newbies" to the degree it does. I found a few good folks here that I would like to continue to converse with, but this BB's "feel" just isn't right for me. The "I can dish it out and you better just sit back and suck it up cause you're new" attitude by many here really sucks, and is kinda childish. I doubt I'll do much more than lurk here from now on.

[Monk]

The answer is just ONCE. Without backhanded slaps, will full humility, and no smart ass remarks.

Damn Ed, stop making sense man . If said apology ever arrives (many hours and counting) keep an eye out for 4 dudes on horses asking for directions to some kind of "seal"

-W.

[basil]

I don't think that friends should have to worry about what they say to each other...so Shelby07, I think you're fine. I wouldn't worry about walking on eggshells if I were you.

On the other hand, I only offered some very good and expensive cigars for best offer. I came here only because I thought you guys would appreciate them at a place like this. There is a time and place for everything and I guess I learned that this isn't the place.

How many fucking times do I have to say sorry.

Can I change my handle and start over again? FUCK.

You sir, are a liar. You haven't apologized one time. When you say you tried to - fuck that, trying is yet another lie. You either will or you won't.

You are a troll of the worst order and even if you do apologize, do not expect many here to welcome you.

Don't think that choosing to no longer respond to my posts has been lost on anyone. And don't think that ignoring the facts will make them go away.

Shelby, you don't have to walk on eggshells. What you do have to do is walk in the front door and bring respect to the table. Much like you have, and completely unlike this troll. Stick around and see - as much as this asshole would like others to believe, this isn't about picking on anyone. It's about preserving the integrity of the board. And yes, we do know each other. and we repect each other. And when a troll shows up, we show 'em the door.

Sid, with all due resepect, I cannot overstate how much I strongly disagree with you about this useless piece of shit. You're not pissed off. You're being pissed on and told it's raining. Just because he knows some of the same geography as you, does not mean he's not a useless fucking troll. Frankly, I'm surprised that you're still with this guy.