i'm pissed off.....

[basil]

SDVM got beat up when he first when he first came here....basil and bigmac beat up partyguy before he started firing back........we have a problem here and if many of you can't see it,then we're destined for failure...


i've invited at least a dozen friends here from other bb's...and most have said they don't like the feeling here...the FOGS here don't need to be impressed by the newer guys who seem to think that they can catch an asshole before anyone else...then it goes downhill from there.....not every new poster is an asshole.....

You're wrong here, Sid. This guy got called on his shit. He took a nasty swipe at the already-established, reputable member who called him out. He fired first by not reading the rules. He was called on it. He fired again with his rudeness toward a member. Then he got called out some more and then he got nasty and began lying.

I don't think I'm trying to impress anyone - this board has an integrity that is worth more than any one person's opinion. And I'll be one who'll step up to preserve it.

You're making noises like you're going to leave if we don't change our ways and opinions. I personally see this as manipulative. However, I'll bite. Also personally, I will be very much aggrieved if you leave this board. You have a vast knowledge of cigars - and you are important to this board. I've said as much to past trolls who have taken swipes at you.

It's too bad about shelby and valueman. But, this partguy got what he had coming.

[BigMacFU]

Shelby left of his own accord. We didn't hound him, we didn't go around insulting constantly. Same with the other guy.

[Shagaroo]

why don't we do this...let's just chase everyone who has a different point of view as george and shag...okay......beautiful!!....

i'll stop asking people to come over here..God forbid...some of the members here might think they're assholes.....bullshit!!!....this is absolute bullshit!!!...

You know, I was agreeing with you on Partyasshatguy, and I still do. I agree, sometimes we need to first try giving folks a nudge in the right direction and not just immediately jump bad on them. Things have gotten out of hand and we need to tone it down.

But damn Sid, this drama shit about SDVM just ain't you and you need to calm down and let it go. If SDVM reigns in his attacking family members and other out of line shit like that, I don't care if he stays or goes and dances the fairy dance on the beach. I tried to tell you before it didn't have spit to do with politics. You didn't want to hear it. You still don't want to hear it. I don't care if he rants until he pops a vessel about politics, but I won't support some clown tearing down peoples family members and personal values and morals because he gets some sick kick out of it.

[bigpoppapuff]

one of the reasons i left CR (where i was an admin) was because of the bullshit....i assure you that barry was goaded into slinging shit...most likely with korryp who is a piece of shit,imho.....i assure you that barry is a really good guy,a good friend,and though you may not like the fact that he's a democrat and hates shrub,he'd be a good addition here.....if i'm going to bring people over here..i'm only bringing those that would make a good addition..

[BigMacFU]

Sid, we know you wouldn't bring anyone who you didn't think was a solid addition. I have total respect for you, and I agree we shouldn't go chasing every newbie out (nor do I think we do this), but I just think you and I see differently with P-Guy, he's the only one though I know of. I didn't say anything about DVM because I shut my ears when politics start being discussed because I know it's just not going to go anywhere very often. Other than P-guy, I don't think we've had too many nooblers running off with their tails between their legs.

[Shagaroo]

and though you may not like the fact that he's a democrat and hates shrub,he'd be a good addition here.....

I must be psychic...

I tried to tell you before it didn't have spit to do with politics. You didn't want to hear it. You still don't want to hear it. I don't care if he rants until he pops a vessel about politics, but I won't support some clown tearing down peoples family members and personal values and morals because he gets some sick kick out of it.

There is no excuse for some of things he has posted and you trying to misdirect the conversation away from it isn't going to help.

[SmokinDVM]

I think I remember reading a post here about not jumping in on a thread where the "established" members were fucking with an "asshat" because you might not have all the facts. Well, with the linked CR thread, same thing. There was a lot of history between me and those others involved in the thread that you obviously don't know about, not that it's any of your business. I can smoke and joke with the best of them, but most of those threads began with them attacking me and my positions on several topics, as well as my career etc. I was giving it right back. It's not in my nature to take shit from anyone. HP was the same kind of crap. They expected me to take shit from people and not return fire, and I was banned for it. BTW, I was only banned from hp once. I chose not to return because they wanted me to ask, or more accurately, beg to get back in. I never even considered going back to that shithole.
This BB seems to have a lot in common with HP. Same shit, different handles.

[Shagaroo]

Actually, I have been around these forums longer than you seem to think I have been. I knew who you were when you signed up and had known who you were for some time. You can try all you want to justify the crap you spew, it don't fly. You are a supposed highly educated adult yet you seldomly act like it.

[Monk]

The Internet is one of the worst forms of communication on the planet. Lets face it. Even in this thread people are confusing who is the subject of certain comments and who isn't. Confusion reigns.... I think everyone needs to take a step back, take a breath and get things back on track.


-W.

[SmokinDVM]

Actually, I have been around these forums longer than you seem to think I have been. I knew who you were when you signed up and had known who you were for some time. You can try all you want to justify the crap you spew, it don't fly. You are a supposed highly educated adult yet you seldomly act like it.

The thought police are here.
Actually, you don't know shit about me, your comments prove it. If you think you can "know" someone from their comments on an internet BB, you're a sad, delusional, petty, little "asshat". Just as bad as the people you claim to be policing for everyone elses benefit. Dare I say major-like. You're just like the other internet punks, who attack someone who has a different social, political, or religious view than you do, and cry like a baby when they attack back. In fact, you're probably just another alter-ego of one of the assholes I've told to fuck-off in the past.
Basically, you've created a nice little safe haven from people you think are "asshats", and damn whatever anyone else thinks. Eventually, you'll be here all by yourself.

[Drake]

one of the reasons i left CR (where i was an admin) was because of the bullshit....i assure you that barry was goaded into slinging shit...most likely with korryp who is a piece of shit,imho.....i assure you that barry is a really good guy,a good friend,and though you may not like the fact that he's a democrat and hates shrub,he'd be a good addition here.....if i'm going to bring people over here..i'm only bringing those that would make a good addition..

we're all the same people we have been, sid. i agree with you 100% about the quick trigger pulling, but more people disagree. you're taking this way too personal. you're bringing people here that don't like the way things are done here, or they don't get along with the general population of this board. what you think to be a good addition isn't necessarily a good addition in everyone else's opinion. it shouldn't mean you don't belong here. we can't agree on everything.


edit for spelling

[Shagaroo]

The thought police are here.
Actually, you don't know shit about me, your comments prove it. If you think you can "know" someone from their comments on an internet BB, you're a sad, delusional, petty, little "asshat". Just as bad as the people you claim to be policing for everyone elses benefit. Dare I say major-like. You're just like the other internet punks, who attack someone who has a different social, political, or religious view than you do, and cry like a baby when they attack back. In fact, you're probably just another alter-ego of one of the assholes I've told to fuck-off in the past.
Basically, you've created a nice little safe haven from people you think are "asshats", and damn whatever anyone else thinks. Eventually, you'll be here all by yourself.

Ah yes, when all else fails, lie! I will, however, thank you for continueing to prove my initial point when you arrived, that you are nothing but trouble and join these forums solely to cause problems. By the way, YOU are the one who goes around calling people whose political, social and religious views are different from yours idiots, scumbags, cumbags for God, repugs, dumbya lovers, etc. Please quote me where anyone here has trashed you for your political, social or religious views!

And for the record, we have far more high quality new guys coming in that like it here to fill the gaps of the few asshats and whiners that leave out of here with a tear in their eye and a hurt butt.

[SmokinDVM]

Ah yes, when all else fails, lie! I will, however, thank you for continueing to prove my initial point when you arrived, that you are nothing but trouble and join these forums solely to cause problems. By the way, YOU are the one who goes around calling people whose political, social and religious views are different from yours idiots, scumbags, cumbags for God, repugs, dumbya lovers, etc. Please quote me where anyone here has trashed you for your political, social or religious views!

And for the record, we have far more high quality new guys coming in that like it here to fill the gaps of the few asshats and whiners that leave out of here with a tear in their eye and a hurt butt.

I don't lie about anything. If you have evidence of lying, please present such, if not...fuck off. Also, you posted links from another BB, about subjects you know nothing about, and claim you know something about me. I consider that an attack. If you pussies are so thin skinned you take offense to my sig. or me using the terms pube etc., then who are the real crybabies? I know who is, but you and your group of sycophants obviously don't.
Would you like to see the PM I got asking me to back off on a political thread when I got here? No, I'm not going to post it. I don't give enough of a shit about what you think of me.

[ggiese]

The thought police are here.
Actually, you don't know shit about me, your comments prove it. If you think you can "know" someone from their comments on an internet BB, you're a sad, delusional, petty, little "asshat". Just as bad as the people you claim to be policing for everyone elses benefit. Dare I say major-like. You're just like the other internet punks, who attack someone who has a different social, political, or religious view than you do, and cry like a baby when they attack back. In fact, you're probably just another alter-ego of one of the assholes I've told to fuck-off in the past.
Basically, you've created a nice little safe haven from people you think are "asshats", and damn whatever anyone else thinks. Eventually, you'll be here all by yourself.

I'm sure you'd really like to believe that was true... What happens if it's not? That would really suck - wouldn't it...

My view of what I've seen of you in action is you thrive on the argument. You love drama. You cannot let ANYTHING go. And if the argument doesn't go your way - you start with the foul crap to drag the whole mess into the toilet with you. It there is no argument - you create one. You've already started a bit of that pattern here...

I don't know what it is you're really looking for in an Internet cigar board. You say this is not it - HP was not it - CR was not it... There are other boards which are less tolerant of flaming - but I sense they wouldn't be your cup of tea either...

Maybe I'm way off mark on this, but I believe you couldn't stay away from this board if we paid you to stay away - there's enough drama and members here to keep you fueled for a long time.

[illilli]

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"What's that? Is this mike on?"

[Drake]

"What's that? Is this mike on?"

more people should use that function

[Monk]

more people should use that function

Pardon? Did you say something?

-W.

[NullSmurf]

"What's that? Is this mike on?"

To read the posts, you get a little window into the character. Once the smell starts to drift in, THEN you use ignore.

I find this tagline funny and have sent it to some friends.

To all Repugs, neocons, and especially dumbya lovers

I am a member of the Repugnant Party and did vote for Dumbya - twice. However, I'm here about the cigars. For politics, I stick to the blogs. If you continue to use that tagline here, you are TROLLING. I'd much rather go smoke a cigar and sip some port.

[Shagaroo]

If you pussies are so thin skinned you take offense to my sig. or me using the terms pube etc., then who are the real crybabies? I know who is, but you and your group of sycophants obviously don't.

Yeah buddy, it's all about the sig tag... Talk about delusional.

you posted links from another BB, about subjects you know nothing about, and claim you know something about me. I consider that an attack.

Not an attack, simply a character witness.

[BigMacFU]

ATTENTION, ATTENTION, this is one of the stupidest arguments put forth on internet BB's in the world:

"If you think you can "know" someone from their comments on an internet BB, you're a sad, delusional, petty, little "asshat"."

I don't care who uses it, this is the last time I want to read it. When one BB personality responds to another BB personality with something like, "I know how you are, I know you from all these other places, and I know you're a jerk, meanie, etc...," clearly the BB personality does NOT mean, I "know" you in any existentially important manner, and definitely not in any Biblical sense. Clearly the reference, unless otherwise qualified (which it rarely is), is that they know how you are as a BB personality. And of course, on the world of BB's, that's all we can know if we've never met the other BB personality in real life, and so we can only go by BB behavior.

Edited here to add an analogy: Spud Webb can jump wicked high on Earth, Spud decides to fly to Jupiter and tell all the martians how he can jump real high, they say prove it, so he jumps, and it's wicked low. Spud Webb may be a totally different person on Earth, he may have Michael and Charles and Kareem fly out to Jupiter to reaffirm the martians, no really, he CAN jump high, it's just in another world. Spud then says, "you martians are stupid for not thinking I can jump high." The martians reply, "But, when you jump in this world it is not high, it is very low." Spud then says, "But it doesn't matter if I am not that way here, because I am on Earth, so treat me for how I am on Earth, not for how I am here." Now, do the martians REALLY no Spud Web, no, they don't, because they don't know him in the context of how he spends the majority of his life, which is on Earth, having one of the best vertical leaps ever! But, as far as they do know him, that is, what he has shown him on their world (Jupiter), he is not one of the best vertical leapers, he's one of the worst. Two things to take away from this, one is the obvious, it is clear that there can be a difference between someone in real life and in the virtual world of the internet, and that pretty much anyone who has been around long enough knows this and thus bases most of what they say off of this "virtual personality." The more important point is though, whether we are in the virtual world or not, there should be no difference between who we are in reality and our "virtual personality." Obviously, the latter point doesn't have any bearing on the argument put forth before this analogy. But, it is a good thought to put out there anyway.

Now you know and knowing is half the battle. --GI Joe

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