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    Quote Originally Posted by cigar no baka
    I agree, any legal immigrant who signs up for service in our armed forces and serves their term faithfully should be on a fast track for citizenship.

    But what truly angers me is the illegals. They are trying to force the issue with our lily-livered politicians who are pandering to ILLEGALS. I won't be voting until a party takes a stand against illegal immigration, cracks down on the border, cracks down on employers who employ illegals,and puts such an onerous burden on illegals here that they will start returning on their own. Let's tax all money sent to Mexico 30-40%. Let's get national ID cards finally. Let's require all law enforcement to either enforce the laws of the United States or lose all federal funding. Lets build some detention centers to hold the illegals we catch and make the host country pay us for sending them back home. Lets shut down the border in a smart, efficient way - more staff, plenty of technology to solve the problem.

    No country can survive such a challenge to its sovereignty. America is doomed unless we do something and do it soon to protect our national identity.
    Maybe we should put mexican flags on their sleeves so they can easily be identified. While we are at it, perhaps tattoos with serial numbers or maybe chip implants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlowerBasketExpress2005
    Maybe we should put mexican flags on their sleeves so they can easily be identified. While we are at it, perhaps tattoos with serial numbers or maybe chip implants.

    If they come in illegally, then yes, that could work.
    just kidding of course but I know what I think about the illegals staging their protests today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlowerBasketExpress2005
    Maybe we should put mexican flags on their sleeves so they can easily be identified. While we are at it, perhaps tattoos with serial numbers or maybe chip implants.
    You're kidding, right? Please tell me you're kidding!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shelby07
    You're kidding, right? Please tell me you're kidding!!

    Yes, I'm pretty sure he's sarcastically trying to compare things to the WW2 era Nazi's.
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    Military members go through a screening process, and must submit proof of citizenship or naturalization. No illegal immigrant is allowed to serve, and the military will help those in need of getting the appropriate documentation if they are willing to serve. What gets me are those that advertise "Made in U.S.A.", but by illegal imigrants...

    But before I can even begin to talk about illegal's affecting the military, I have to bring up Americans protesting the military. I am in Afghanistan, and am a military volunteer, that is to say I joined of my own free will 8 years ago, and love every minute of it. I gladly come here an do whatever is needed to ensure our countries freedoms. But nothing, and I mean nothing sickens me more, than to get a newspaper or a glimse on CNN, showing AMERICANS protesting military funerals across the country...

    just my .02

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    Quote Originally Posted by Locard
    But nothing, and I mean nothing sickens me more, than to get a newspaper or a glimse on CNN, showing AMERICANS protesting military funerals across the country...
    Try to keep in mind that the VAST majority of Americans, regardless of their stance on the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, support our troops 100%.

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    It sickens most people when we see whack-jobs protesting against the military, especially at funerals of fallen soldiers. But, these idiots are a small, mentally disturbed group, and not representative of the US public in general.
    We need to be careful not to confuse protesting against the Iraq war with protesting against the troops. The trend in this country equating protesting against the war, or the current piece of crap that calls himself President, as protesting against the troops or being un-patriotic, is a fallacy perpetrated and perpetuated by the extreme right wing. Having been in the military myself, I am fully aware and sympathetic to the situation that the troops are in. That doesn't mean I can't, and in fact have a responsibility to, protest against the unnecessary and ill-advised misuse of our troops by the present administration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperChuck
    Try to keep in mind that the VAST majority of Americans, regardless of their stance on the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, support our troops 100%.
    Thanks SuperChuck. I know that the majority do support our troops 100%, and show their support tremendously. (I don't even have to tell you the outpouring support that is received from BOTL.) But the media loves to showcase and report the scandelous information, and it is disheartening when we get that news here. I am not saying that I am discouraged by the rantings of these protestors at funerals...if anything I am fueled. I am just utterly disgusted, that someone would take their rights (freedom of speech), and use it in a manner that disrespects soldiers and what they die for.

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    Greetings From Rancho Mirage
    By Ben Stein
    Published 4/5/2006 2:29:42 AM

    Dear Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen, Marines, National Guard, Reservists,
    in Iraq, in the Middle East theater, in Afghanistan, in the area near
    Afghanistan, in any base anywhere in the world, and your families:

    Let me tell you about why you guys own about 90 percent of the cojones
    in the whole world right now and should be damned happy with yourselves
    and damned proud of who you are. It was a dazzlingly hot day here in
    Rancho Mirage today. I did small errands like going to the bank to pay
    my mortgage, finding a new bed at a price I can afford, practicing
    driving with my new 5 wood, paying bills for about two hours.

    I spoke for a long time to a woman who is going through a nasty child
    custody fight. I got e-mails from a woman who was fired today from her
    job for not paying attention. I read about multi-billion-dollar mergers
    in Europe, Asia, and the Mideast. I noticed how overweight I am, for
    the millionth time.

    In other words, I did a lot of nothing. Like every other American who
    is not in the armed forces family, I basically just rearranged the deck
    chairs on the Titanic in my trivial, self-important, meaningless way.

    Above all, I talked to a friend of more than forty-three years who
    told me he thought his life had no meaning because all he did was count
    his money.

    And, friends in the armed forces, this is the story of all of America
    today. We are doing nothing but treading water while you guys carry on
    the life or death struggle against worldwide militant Islamic
    terrorism. Our lives are about nothing: paying bills, going to humdrum
    jobs, waiting until we can go to sleep and then do it all again. Our
    most vivid issues are trivia compared with what you do every day, every
    minute, every second.

    Oprah Winfrey talks a lot about "meaning" in life. For her, "meaning"
    is dieting and then having her photo on the cover of her magazine every
    single month (surely a new world record for egomania ).This is not
    "meaning."

    Meaning is doing for others. Meaning is risking your life for others.
    Meaning is putting your bodies and families' peace of mind on the line
    to defeat some of the most evil, sick killers the world has ever known.

    Meaning is leaving the comfort of home to fight to make sure that there
    still will be a home for your family and for your nation and for free
    men and women everywhere.

    Look, soldiers and Marines and sailors and airmen and Coast Guardsmen,
    there are eight billion people in this world. The whole fate of this
    world turns on what you people, 1.4 million, more or less, do every
    day.

    The fate of mankind depends on what about 2/100 of one percent of the
    people in this world do every day -- and you are those people. And
    joining you is every policeman, fireman, and EMT in the country, also
    holding back the tide of chaos.

    Do you know how important you are? Do you know how indispensable you
    are? Do you know how humbly grateful any of us who has a head on his
    shoulders is to you?

    Do you know that if you never do another thing in your lives, you will
    always still be heroes? That we could live without Hollywood or Wall
    Street or the NFL, but we cannot live for a week without you?

    We are on our knees to you and we bless and pray for you every moment.

    And Oprah Winfrey, if she were a size two, would not have one
    millionth of your importance, and all of the Wall Street billionaires
    will never mean what the least of you do, and if Barry Bonds hit ninety
    home runs it would not mean as much as you going on one patrol or
    driving one truck to the Baghdad airport.

    You are everything to us, as we go through our little days, and you
    are in the prayers of the nation and of every decent man and woman on
    the planet.

    That's who you are and what you mean. I hope you know that.

    Love, Ben Stein

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    Quote Originally Posted by Locard
    Military members go through a screening process, and must submit proof of citizenship or naturalization. No illegal immigrant is allowed to serve, and the military will help those in need of getting the appropriate documentation if they are willing to serve. What gets me are those that advertise "Made in U.S.A.", but by illegal imigrants...

    But before I can even begin to talk about illegal's affecting the military, I have to bring up Americans protesting the military. I am in Afghanistan, and am a military volunteer, that is to say I joined of my own free will 8 years ago, and love every minute of it. I gladly come here an do whatever is needed to ensure our countries freedoms. But nothing, and I mean nothing sickens me more, than to get a newspaper or a glimse on CNN, showing AMERICANS protesting military funerals across the country...

    just my .02
    I just wanted to say "Thank You". No matter what the "Drive by Media" says, I think you guys are doing a great job.

    Once again thank you.
    "Frankenstien never scared me. Marsupials do, because they’re fast." - Kevin Pollak as Christopher Walken

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