Can you believe this?

**cockyhoskins** · 04-18-2005, 01:50 PM

Oh, by the way, the only bad traders list that matters on this board is the one created by this board. Don't sweat it.

**Drake** · 04-18-2005, 02:38 PM

beat him too it. say his cigars were fake and ruin his credibility before he ruins yours.

**YelloCello** · 04-18-2005, 03:11 PM

I'm the one that triggered all this. I'm in a boxpass with the fellow that Oblik mentions. He in fact started the pass, and I was the first recipient. Noticed that the Esplendido in the box was fake, pulled it, and let the guy know. He maintains that he got the cigar from Oblik. He has no reason to lie, and from what I understand his entire stock of Cohibas comes from Oblik.

I don't know any of you guys from Adam, but the bottom line in my book is if any of you have Cohibas with bands that resemble the one on the left in the picture below, you are smoking fakes. Yeah, it smells Cuban and may in fact be a good cigar, but it ain't no Cohiba:

Have a nice day.

**cockyhoskins** · 04-18-2005, 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by YelloCello

I don't know who's cigar is whose, but I know the one on the left is indeed fake.

Other than that, I don't care. Oblik is a good poster on this board, and like I said earlier, the only bad trader list I am concerned with is the one on this board. Ya'll stick around and work this out. Cigarsmokers is a good community and can use some experienced BOTLs on here.

Hell, if it will settle this thing, I will buy all of you a few sticks.

**Dave Razz** · 04-18-2005, 03:18 PM

I am not going to post anything negative...like show these pictures, show where you claim to beat anyones price on the same Cohiba, etc.. until this is resolved.

I will not flame nor insult you as you have me until resolution is reached... which I hope it will be soon. I took this to your private email and you choose to only post one email out of many back and forth this morning. Show the botl over here you are going to resolve this issue the right way. I have better things to do with my time than harrass you or any member of this community, just want you to accept that the cigars we traded are FAKE instead of claiming a crazy person is "out to get you".

Instead of telling me that you will look into it or something, you start calling me names and a liar...I would think an innocent botl would at least look into first, as your supplier obviously sold you fakes....it happens to all of us at some point. Let's expose this source so no other botl gets burned the way I did!

It is wise of you to try and cover you ace but I have the cigars Carlos...the packaging, the emails and the threads in quesiton. I am sorry to disrupt your board, as it looks like you are up and coming. A very nice site imho and I am sure this will be resolved ASAP.

I look forward to contributing here more in the future as all of us botl have to stick together.

Thanks
Dave

**Drake** · 04-18-2005, 03:50 PM

Originally Posted by Dave Razz

I am not going to post anything negative...like show these pictures, show where you claim to beat anyones price on the same Cohiba, etc.. until this is resolved.

I will not flame nor insult you as you have me until resolution is reached... which I hope it will be soon. I took this to your private email and you choose to only post one email out of many back and forth this morning. Show the botl over here you are going to resolve this issue the right way. I have better things to do with my time than harrass you or any member of this community, just want you to accept that the cigars we traded are FAKE instead of claiming a crazy person is "out to get you".

Instead of telling me that you will look into it or something, you start calling me names and a liar...I would think an innocent botl would at least look into first, as your supplier obviously sold you fakes....it happens to all of us at some point. Let's expose this source so no other botl gets burned the way I did!

It is wise of you to try and cover you ace but I have the cigars Carlos...the packaging, the emails and the threads in quesiton. I am sorry to disrupt your board, as it looks like you are up and coming. A very nice site imho and I am sure this will be resolved ASAP.

I look forward to contributing here more in the future as all of us botl have to stick together.

Thanks
Dave

what's botl?