Quote Originally Posted by cigarsarge
The cross is used as a as a Christian symbol for obvious reasons. They use the fish symbol because in order to get into secret houses of worship during Roman times they had to use a code...Usually drawing a fish on the ground.

I agree that the Statue of Liberty should not be used as a religous object. That's rather absurd. But in this country you can make a worship symbol out of an elephant turd...You are free to do so.

I saw an Easter display this year that disturbed me. Just a mile or so away from me a fundamentalist Christian church erected three wooden crosses. They placed a youth from the church on each cross. They had youth dressed as Roman soldiers around the kids on the cross. As I drove by one youth had a fake spear and was holding it up to the guy playing Jesus on the cross.

They had two American Flags along with a Christian in the background of the display.

Now people in that church scare me to death. My granddaughter was in the car and saw this...She still talks about the guy with the spear. The flags in the background had no place there. They had no reguard for the public...Only reguard for getting their message out.

The city cops came out and directed traffic as the road became unpassable. The press came out, took interviews pro and con. It was all about publicity to intertwine church and state.

Mixing religion and government should not happen...But is is your choice to do it or not.

I'll be in Memphis this week...I'll see it for my myself.

Comparing Republicans to Muslims...Come on DVM. You can't sit there and say that.
Actually, the cross, and the fish symbol, were both taken from earlier pagan religions so it would be easier to absorb those people into "the fold". Same with christian holidays. Take christmas, for example, it was not the birthday of jesus. It was originally a pagan holiday and was usurped by the christians to be used as a recruiting tool.


I do agree that mixing religion and government shouldn't happen, and good politician should realize that some things that might be against their personal religious beliefs, are still better for the American people.


Why not compare repugs and radical muslims? At this point in history, their goals are essentially the same, the control of the people through a mix of government and religion, with the laws based more on religion than on what's best for all the people.


I'm glad you guys aren't going to get upset over this shit. Adults should be able to discuss politics and religion without getting their panties in a bunch. I don't agree with the mind changing stuff though. If you truly think you know it all, well, that's not really a good thing.

Besides, at the end of the day, after all the political debates, I'd still share a good drink and cigar with any botl.