No Dave, everything that I have said here was said to you in the emails. If you would get the anger out of your eyes and read them for what they are you would see that.
Why do you continue to yell at me? You are very degrading, not that I care.
Senior Member
No Dave, everything that I have said here was said to you in the emails. If you would get the anger out of your eyes and read them for what they are you would see that.
Why do you continue to yell at me? You are very degrading, not that I care.
Life is to short to b!tch...Get over it and move on.
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So you don't intend to make it right, Carlos??? The "...not that I care..." you wrote is troubling...Originally Posted by Oblik
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This is water under the bridge...I am not angry with you Carlos. I was the idiot that put these cigars in a pass, live and learn as they say, but that hurt me more than anything. Being burned by you doesn't hurt near as much as me burning my friends down the line in the box pass I am currently hosting.
I tried in vain via email, as has been published, to help yourself make things right. The result is what it is...you on the Bad Traders and Scumbag List.
I feel better knowing you have been exposed and the cigar community...all forums...are now "in the loop"
Dave...let's move on huh?
Senior Member
This is after all the drama...Not the direct affect
Life is to short to b!tch...Get over it and move on.
Senior Monkey
[QUOTE=CoventryCat86]
thanks for the biggest laugh i have had since all this started ...Roham should apologize to the community?!?!?...........that is funny
so essentially it is just a total coincidence that all of you guys who DON"T KNOW EACH OTHER just HAPPENED to decide to join this community within days of each other (with more coming in all the time....but I'm sure that's nobody you know either) and it JUST SO HAPPENS that all of you know about the situation with Oblik and decide that that is going to totally dominate these boards regardless of what anyone else says under the pretense that you are DOING US A FAVOR by pointing out Obliks bad trading practices, and WE are the bad guys because we are SICK AND F***ING TIRED OF HEARING ABOUT IT.
We come here to relax and talk about cigars...at least we used to before you and your merry band got here.
I guess your aim is to destroy the place because Oblik is a Mod? Is that the goal here?
And by the way, I don't really care if I misspelled anything, so you don't have to tell me if I did.
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[QUOTE=labmonkey]Here we have another case of someone who has no idea what he's talking about, levies groundless accusations and is pretty much clueless. Who's "totally dominating" what boards here? A few posts questioning Oblik's behavior is only an extremely small percentage of the total posts on this site in the last week. You are exaggerating and it makes you look foolish.
thanks for the biggest laugh i have had since all this started ...Roham should apologize to the community?!?!?...........that is funny
so essentially it is just a total coincidence that all of you guys who DON"T KNOW EACH OTHER just HAPPENED to decide to join this community within days of each other (with more coming in all the time....but I'm sure that's nobody you know either) and it JUST SO HAPPENS that all of you know about the situation with Oblik and decide that that is going to totally dominate these boards regardless of what anyone else says under the pretense that you are DOING US A FAVOR by pointing out Obliks bad trading practices, and WE are the bad guys because we are SICK AND F***ING TIRED OF HEARING ABOUT IT.
We come here to relax and talk about cigars...at least we used to before you and your merry band got here.
I guess your aim is to destroy the place because Oblik is a Mod? Is that the goal here?
And by the way, I don't really care if I misspelled anything, so you don't have to tell me if I did.
Your "guess" is wrong. I'm still looking for the "five" people.Many of us are members at various boards, unlike you labmonkeyboy who appears to only be a member here. This is not one big grand conspiracy as you have concluded. You should really get out there and explore other cigar boards, it will do you some good.
Gee, isn't that just too bad that you don't like some of my posts, you're just going to have to quit whining about it and stop acting like a baby.
You better get used to it because when people like Oblik behave the way they do and screw people in trades and post nasty posts, there are going to be posts about it in return. If you'd pull your head out of your a$$, you'd understand how beneficial to the entire community this is.
Tell ya what, let's you and I do a trade, I'll trade you five Cuban cigars for five or your Opus X and you send me your Opus X and I'll send you some fake Cuban cigars. Then when you email me or PM me about it, I'll ignore you or lie to you. Since you are such a nice guy an all, you won't make any negative posts about me if I bend you over on the trade. You're just the kind of guy I WANT to trade with since you're so nice an' all. So whadda say, wanna trade some cigars with me? I've got REAL Cuban cigars, I SWEAR TO GOD (cause I know you won't say anything bad about me when I screw you on the deal).
You really need to grow up and smarten up labmoney.....
Last edited by CoventryCat86; 04-24-2005 at 10:06 PM.
Silent but Deadly
hey, i'll admit the posts and what not were getting annoying to me, only because at first they were spread out among diff posts and it was annoying. But now its contained in i believe two threads. So now they dont bother me.
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[QUOTE=labmonkey]
thanks for the biggest laugh i have had since all this started ...Roham should apologize to the community?!?!?...........that is funny
so essentially it is just a total coincidence that all of you guys who DON"T KNOW EACH OTHER just HAPPENED to decide to join this community within days of each other (with more coming in all the time....but I'm sure that's nobody you know either) and it JUST SO HAPPENS that all of you know about the situation with Oblik and decide that that is going to totally dominate these boards regardless of what anyone else says under the pretense that you are DOING US A FAVOR by pointing out Obliks bad trading practices, and WE are the bad guys because we are SICK AND F***ING TIRED OF HEARING ABOUT IT.
We come here to relax and talk about cigars...at least we used to before you and your merry band got here.
I guess your aim is to destroy the place because Oblik is a Mod? Is that the goal here?
And by the way, I don't really care if I misspelled anything, so you don't have to tell me if I did.and who would that be, labmonkey? It seems to me that most have been pretty tolerant of my views - but you seemed troubled. Others have expressed themselves, I've responded. That irritates you? It doesn't irritate me - I can have a frank discussion with someone without me being offended. Can you? Can WE (you and me) talk about that? I don't understand your trepidation..."...we are SICK AND F***ING TIRED OF HEARING ABOUT IT."
Yes"so essentially it is just a total coincidence that all of you guys who DON"T KNOW EACH OTHER just HAPPENED to decide to join this community within days of each other (with more coming in all the time...."
Nope - I couldn't possibly do that. Not in a million years. Very egotistcal of you to think so. But, this place can destroy itself - without mine or anyone else's help... For example - you want to see this site go down? Keep doing box passes like the first one that was done around here where two nice cigars are missing, and possible fake cigars were put in - or people are taking nice cigars and placing garbage in their place... That'll do it... Especially if members aren't allowed to express themselves because it would not be nice...I guess your aim is to destroy the place because Oblik is a Mod? Is that the goal here?
But you make a good point, monkey - Oblik being a mod COULD be a problem, if he conducts himself on this board as he did on the LTC board. Go and check that place out - if you can get in to the private club they have established over there - I'm sure Oblik will let you in. But wait a few days, the hard drive went down and you can't read any posts right now... And while you're over there, send PuroBrat some cigars - he needs them...
Not a pretense, and we ARE doing you a favor.under the pretense that you are DOING US A FAVOR by pointing out Obliks bad trading practices
I never said that - I think you're drawing conclusions again - I just disagree with you. But that's okay - you can disagree with me, I don't mind...and WE are the bad guys
Last edited by ggiese; 04-24-2005 at 10:26 PM.
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Well I guess we all can't like every post all the time. That's the trial and tribulations of an on-line BB, oh well. On the other hand, some may find it annoying that Oblik is allowed to run roughshod over people with his sometimes generally nasty attitude. Maybe you don't because he's your buddy or something but others find him offensvie.
Personally I think there's hope for him, I think he may see the error of his ways in due time.
Senior Monkey
[QUOTE=CoventryCat86]Did Oblik screw you personally Coventry?
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[QUOTE=labmonkey]No, I've never met him so we never had the opportunity to fornicate
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[QUOTE]Originally Posted by CoventryCat86
Am I missing something here, or was this original post deleted??? I don't see it in this thread anymore...
Senior Monkey
[QUOTE=CoventryCat86]
i'm tired of talking about this crap. I really let it get to me for a few days, and I see no that it's just a waste of time.
I still think it's time to let this stuff die, and get on with normal life, and stop poking at each other (and I'm sure you will blame me for causing it, and you are right to an extent because I should have seen from the beginning that it would be a wasted effort in trying to convince any of you guys to stop this crap) . But if I remember correctly Dave was the one that got the bad deal....he's a big boy....let him handle it. BE ADULTS FOR GOD'S SAKE!
How old are you guys? This place turned into an elementary school playground overnight with all this name calling and crap going on....my only point all along has been "CUT IT OUT"
This is not what I'm here for....
Someone posted earlier that we are all entitled to our opinion and that's mine.
Senior Monkey
[QUOTE=ggiese]Thread 46...last paragraph....Originally Posted by CoventryCat86
Am I missing something here, or was this original post deleted??? I don't see it in this thread anymore...
[QUOTE=labmonkey]Oh I see, just because YOU didn't get abused or screwed over on a deal means no one should talk about it, right?
i'm tired of talking about this crap. I really let it get to me for a few days, and I see no that it's just a waste of time.
I still think it's time to let this stuff die, and get on with normal life, and stop poking at each other (and I'm sure you will blame me for causing it, and you are right to an extent because I should have seen from the beginning that it would be a wasted effort in trying to convince any of you guys to stop this crap) . But if I remember correctly Dave was the one that got the bad deal....he's a big boy....let him handle it. BE ADULTS FOR GOD'S SAKE!
How old are you guys? This place turned into an elementary school playground overnight with all this name calling and crap going on....my only point all along has been "CUT IT OUT"
This is not what I'm here for....
Someone posted earlier that we are all entitled to our opinion and that's mine.
Sorry money but you're just going to have to look at posts when someone screws up.
In my case, Oblik was rude, nasty and abusive towards me on the Island of the Misfit Toys and was instrumental in having me banned. And yes, I didn't like it and neither did a whole lot of other guys, many of whom I do not even know.
So too bad, you're just going to have to live with people talking about it. The problem here is Oblik, not me or ggiese or CoventryCat or anyone else.
Tell ya what, why don't you convince Oblik to clean up his act. If and when Oblik ever does you'll see a heck of a lot less trouble around here.
Why the hell don't you practice what you preach? If you don't like peoplethen why do you post inflamatory comments like this?:poking at each otherYou're worse than Oblik at this point GROW UP you punk.How old are you guys? This place turned into an elementary school playground overnight with all this name calling and crap going on
Senior Member
group hug? anyone?.......so, how bout them cigars?........
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What is your purpose, Monkey? Are you trying to save the board from the "great invasion"?
I've already told you - no one person (or group of people) is going to destroy this place - very egotistical of you to think so...We come here to relax and talk about cigars...at least we used to before you and your merry band got here.
I guess your aim is to destroy the place because Oblik is a Mod? Is that the goal here?
As far as screwing people, I think Oblik's attitude is what's screwing people - whether it's his trading practices, or his heavy handed mod practices that's screwing people - he's screwing people. You're attitude is inflammatory - supporting suspicious trading practices is inflammatory.
I'll tell you what - read for yourself how a bad situation is handled in an unmoderated manner. It's a little uncomfortable at some points, but I suggest you read it ALL the way through - FROM BEGINNING TO THE END!!! The resolution is worth the read!!!
The Members introductory post
Members sale page (WARNING - IT GETS ROUGH)
Review of cigars sent to members
The Member apologizes to the community
The ironic part of those posts is the guy thought he truly had REAL product - and he was WRONG. His product was true from its origins, but not true labeling, so I dare to say, a bit more legit than Oblik's, which are of suspicious origins all together. Yet, this guy did some further reasearch, realized his mistake, and APOLOGIZED to the community. Fortunately, no one was out anything because no trades were done. But he could have just as easily just walked away and chalked it up to experience. Had he done that, however, he would have been outed at any other board he went to - such as what Dave has done here.
I'm glad to see Oblik has NOT been locking threads and deleting posts. And he's been very quiet through these discussions. Hopefully, he understands and appreciates the gravity of his actions, which will shape his decisions in the future.
Senior Monkey
[QUOTE=Moheganson]
grade school name calling.
[QUOTE=labmonkey]Hey, I'm just operating at your level. I see you cannot refute anything else I said can you?
grade school name calling.
Again, why don't you practice what you preach? You are obvioulsy incapabale of that, aren't you?
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[QUOTE=labmonkey]Why is it you pick one sentence out of a post to focus on? You continue to focus on other than the meat of the post as being the essence of the post (i.e. "grade school name calling").
grade school name calling.
Are you satisfied or not satisfied with any of the points made on any of these posts? Or, are you more interested in participating in flame wars, firing baseless accusations, and in general, being disrespectful of new members? (the kinds of things that eventually bring a online bb down).
You're acidic attitude is not very becoming
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