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It seems to liberalism is just an attempt to make reckless or bad behavior accepable and to use the constitution as they see fit.
Barry...The typical liberal... Reminds me of a small child that gets caught misbehaving and will say or do anything to justify what he has done.
cigar no baka is dead on in his comment about Barry. Barry is more interested in being arrogant than trying to get his point across...In reality he has no point...Only hostility toward anyone that chooses to debate him.
Are You Threatening Me?
Originally Posted by cigarsarge
Talk about childish.
Typical neocon. When you can't think of any more idiotic rationalizations for stupid actions, you cry "whiney liberal", or arrogant, or you whine how the liberals just hate all the time. BULLSHIT!
The childish, whiney, thin skinned babies are the neocons. Examples provided above.
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Talk about childish.
Typical neocon. When you can't think of any more idiotic rationalizations for stupid actions, you cry "whiney liberal", or arrogant, or you whine how the liberals just hate all the time. BULLSHIT!
The childish, whiney, thin skinned babies are the neocons. Examples provided above.
You are incorrect. You lack the ability to carry on a reasonable conversation. Interaction with you is a waste of time.
Some say you have a sharp wit. Maybe so...But it is lost in the manner you spew your crap toward anyone that might disagree with you. You seem to think the way to get your word out is to shout people down...Get a clue...That doesn't work with anybody that has a brain.
Congrats...You are the only person here I have put on ignore.
Sid...If Barry is here to have fun with other people he ought to be a little more civil. He is about as abrasive as they get. He is a smart guy with something to say...It's just the way he says it. Go back and read his posts on this thread. He can't seem to post without calling someone a name.
Last edited by cigarsarge; 07-26-2006 at 04:54 PM.
Destroyer of Safiness
You are incorrect. You lack the ability to carry on a reasonable conversation. Interaction with you is a waste of time.
Some say you have a sharp wit. Maybe so...But it is lost in the manner you spew your crap toward anyone that might disagree with you. You seem to think the way to get your word out is to shout people down...Get a clue...That doesn't work with anybody that has a brain.
Congrats...You are the only person here I have put on ignore.
Sid...If Barry is here to have fun with other people he ought to be a little more civil. He is about as abrasive as they get. He is a smart guy with something to say...It's just the way he says it. Go back and read his posts on this thread. He can't seem to post without calling someone a name.
Funny how liberals always seem to resort to name calling once they finish spewing hatred.
I put Barry on ignore a while back since there was no point in carrying on a discussion with him as he is so filled with anger and hate it make discussion impossible. Now I have to put Sid on ignore as well since he has to resort to childish name calling. The first two people I have put on ignore in a year.
There's only two kinds of cigars, the kind you like and the kind you don't.
Destroyer of Safiness
Amen brother, amen!!
There's only two kinds of cigars, the kind you like and the kind you don't.
baka...you are a hateful prick...you deserve shrub...
Destroyer of Safiness
Excuse me? I'm not the one posting hateful shit constantly, that's another person here - Barry - can't you see it?
There's only two kinds of cigars, the kind you like and the kind you don't.
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Are You Threatening Me?
Want to give making a useful, or remotely on topic post, a try?Excuse me? I'm not the one posting hateful shit constantly, that's another person here - Barry - can't you see it?
So who exactly is the hate-monger here?
BTW, if your feelings are so fragile, maybe you should take up needlepoint or something.
barry is here to have fun..and enjoy the company of other cigar brothers and sisters...something that baka has trouble doing these days....if liberalism is a mental disorder,baka....what is your brand of right-wing drivel.....barry is a friend of mine...has been for more than a few years..and on your best day,you couldn't match him with wit or as a brother...he's in your head...big time...try to deal with it...
you were the one complaining about the political forum but continue to use your very political sub-handle...if you went away today...never to return...i wouldn't miss you...you are truly pathetic...you belong at snobs or chat with the other assholes....go away!!!
WWTKD?
I wish I could figure out what liberalism and conservatism are.
I consider myself pretty liberal. To me, that means I'm concerned with the rights of people and I'm open to new ideas. By my definition, I see a lot of republicans as liberal. There are many republicans I admire and some I've voted for.
I actually enjoy a balanced government. I like to see a Congress majority of one party and a President from the other.
Well, anyway. Does anyone have a good definition of liberalism and conservativism that doesn't involve "liberals are crybaby pantywaists" or "conservatives are nazi jackasses"?
WWTKD?
I'm also curious why more liberals seem to post during the day and more conservatives tend to post in the evening...
Or is it that there are more moderates during the day?
Last edited by SuperChuck; 07-25-2006 at 08:59 PM.
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I think liberalism tends to be more socialist. They would like to see the govt. support the population. It also appears to me that no one is apparently responsible for anything they do. If you do something wrong, or don't succeed, or something is hard, then it must be because of some external force as opposed to your own actions.
Conservatism appears to me to be about going out in life and making bucks for yourself, and maybe stepping on a few pee-ons in the process. I don't think conservatism in itself has anything to do with religion, but it makes sense that a religious person may tend to be more conservative.
As far as politics goes, that is just a matter of saying the right things to the people above you in order to advance yourself.
Most importantly, who gives a shit? I mean, you think what you think. I doubt anyone is entirely on one side or the other on every issue. In this thread, I am probably labeled as a conservative, because my views on terrorism and criminals tend to align on that side. But if we are talking about science, drugs, or abortion I would probably seem liberal to a lot.
End of line.
WWTKD?
Yeah, that's what I think is kind of funny about the whole issue...
You mentioned liberals as being more "government as mommy". While I consider myself pretty liberal, I'm also pretty capitalist. I'm opposed to things like a welfare state and social security (I fall in the middle on healthcare).
It seems like there are several viewpoints glommed into these two categories. If I were a hardliner on drugs, but a capitalist, would I have to flip a coin?
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From Wikipedia...
Multiplicity of interpretation of the left-right axis
There are various different opinions about what is actually being measured along this axis, and lines often blur among parties. For more detail see the main article Left-Right politics:
* Equality of outcome (left) versus equality of right (right).
* Redistribution of wealth and income (left), or acceptance of inequalities as a result of the free market (right).
* Whether the government's policy on the economy should be interventionist (left) or laissez-faire (right).
* Support for widened lifestyle choices (left), or support for traditional values (right).
* Whether the state should prioritise equality (left) or liberty (right). Both the left and the right tend to speak in favor of both equality and liberty - but they have different interpretations.
* Whether human nature is more malleable (left) or intrinsic (right).
* Whether the government should promote secularism (left) or religious morality (right).
* Collectivism (left) versus individualism (right).
* Support for internationalism (left), or national interest (right).
These definitions are further blurred by the difference in practice of left and right policies, for example the "leftist" nationalism of Latin America, the "rightist" corporate protectionist policies of the United States, and the individualist philosophy of ideologies like anarcho-capitalism.
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