swing and slide...

[cinda]

hey empire...what fucking cred have you built up in your short stay??....read more and type less you fucking tool....

I do not think being mean to people when they have a valid thought is the best example from a Senior member. Anyone can lie and make it all up bottom line. Thats all he was saying. Its the last thing I say on the whole thing

[planenut]

Even when you buy online, they don't really require much proof... Just click on the drop down box and fill in your birthdate.. Of course you use a CC.
This will be really hard to validate if not impossible. Especially if that black out all the info. Even if they don't black out info, what is to stop them from copying someone else's license who is of age?

I think all you can do is have them fill out a form that says they are and then trust or not.. It's up to whomever is dealing with them.

My .02

[thepyrofish]

Even when you buy online, they don't really require much proof... Just click on the drop down box and fill in your birthdate.. Of course you use a CC.
This will be really hard to validate if not impossible. Especially if that black out all the info. Even if they don't black out info, what is to stop them from copying someone else's license who is of age?

I think all you can do is have them fill out a form that says they are and then trust or not.. It's up to whomever is dealing with them.

My .02

Exactly. The same way that Hex wouldn't be liable if they say they're over 18, I think none of us would be either. As long as the person had led us to believe they were 18. Which they would automatically be doing by joining the site.

[cigar no baka]

I do not think being mean to people when they have a valid thought is the best example from a Senior member. Anyone can lie and make it all up bottom line. Thats all he was saying. Its the last thing I say on the whole thing

That's Sid in a nutshell...full of anger and hatred.

[bigpoppapuff]

That's Sid in a nutshell...full of anger and hatred.

not really bitch...just toward you....another asshat who slipped through the cracks....almost 1000 posts...like a seinfeld show...about nothing and virtually no cred...baka...you're a piece of shit...

btw...i thought i was on ignore....

[Shelby07]

I think Hex needs to be careful here. I don't know what the provisions on a BB site are, but I do know that there is an agreement that each of us has to agree to stating that we are a certain age. Perhaps it should be 21 on this board.

I say that Hex needs to be careful because I believe if he starts requiring ID, then he takes on the responsibility to ensure the ID provided is legitimate, just as it does in a liquor store, bar or B&M... i.e., serving a minor in a bar who provides false ID will still get the bar owner slapped with a fine.

I agree with Sid in principal that those under 21 should be discouraged from posting, but I don't know how to require verification without taking the liability associated with it.

Make sense??

BTW - I graduated HS on schedule in June of 1968 in NJ - I turned 18 2 months before (April)

[Stryprod]

One question... does anyone know of anyone who has been busted for providing Cigars to a minor on this or another board??? Can you be busted for sending an underaged kid cigars?; probably but what are the chances that it is going to happen, let alone you being caught. Im not advocating illegal activity but the law is more concerned with kids getting alcohol of the internet than cigars and I highly doubt there are any feds lurking to take advantage of us. Simple rule is that if you do not feel comfortable selling any to some suspected kid, don't do it because other than a hunch, you will never know their true age even w/ easy to lie/hack age verif.

[Empire23]

I never said I was the voice or had a ton of expirience like you do, I was just giving my opinion like you (BPP) did with your first post in this thread.

[Stryprod]

I never said I was the voice or had a ton of expirience like you do, I was just giving my opinion like you did with your first post in this thread.

Although I know who you are talking about, generally you want to clairify who you are talking about. FYI: this comment is not meant to be rude or snooty, just a tip!

[Empire23]

Heh, thanks, I edited it so no one else gets that impression also. Thanks 8)

[hex1848]

I'm all for adding a requirement to the rules and regulations that members be 18 +. This discussion has been beat to death all over the Internet. MySpace has the same problem (obviously different age prerequisite), but there is currently no real way to validate someone’s age – it’s based on the touch of a keypad and the click of a mouse.

[cls515]

I think age is an appropriate thing to consider on this board. I was unaware that the legal smoking age in some states is 19. Is there a minimum age required for registering here? I can't remember.