Why are we fighting???

**cockyhoskins** · 04-23-2005, 08:58 AM

Originally Posted by ggiese

I think your idea is absolutely insane!!! What the heck will that accomplish, other than causing severe anger and resentment... Do you disagree with the late U.S. Supreme Court Justice Louis D. Brandeis when he said , "Sunlight is said to be the best of disinfectants." ? I personally live by and believe we should heed those words

Quoting Brandeis is a little over the top. It makes me think of Learned Hand when he said:

"The mid-day sun is too much for most eyes; one is dazzled even with its reflection. Be careful that too broad and high an aim does not paralyze your effort and clog your springs of action."

Or better yet, he said: "No doubt one may quote history to support any cause, as the devil quotes scripture."

My point is simply: Lighten up and let's talk about cigars.

**ggiese** · 04-23-2005, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by cockyhoskins

Quoting Brandeis is a little over the top. It makes me think of Learned Hand when he said:

"The mid-day sun is too much for most eyes; one is dazzled even with its reflection. Be careful that too broad and high an aim does not paralyze your effort and clog your springs of action."

Or better yet, he said: "No doubt one may quote history to support any cause, as the devil quotes scripture."

My point is simply: Lighten up and let's talk about cigars.

Aside from the few posts in here and a couple of other thread, I think you can see we ARE talking about cigars - just not all the time (for example, the thread you're involved in about the NFL draft). I'm sure at some point you'll be faced with political discussions between members - it's bound to happen. You want to see feathers fly?

I agree: "No doubt one may quote history to support any cause, as the devil quotes scripture." So in response to your first quote: Please don't paint this dispute into an all consuming, destructive war - that's not what it is. It's a disagreement, pure and simple, trying to bring ONE circumstance to light. It's never been a broad attack on this board. I'm not some kind of enforcer, who doesn't enjoy cigars, coming in here to wreak havoc. Please don't label me as such. It hurts my feelings

And we are not focusing on disrupting the board as Roham would suggest. I know a lot of people on other boards - and they know me. So they show up here and say "hi"? Does that now mean they mean harm? You don't know BKcloud - are you prejudiced? You certainly are prejudging him. You should get to know him - he's really a great guy!!! He's fairly new at cigars, but has the same passion for them as you do.

I've spoken my peace an some issues, so I can see where you might be a little irritated by my comments if you don't necessarily agree with them. But that doesn't make me a bad person, does it? A number of you disagreed with me, and I don't view you as a bad people.

So what should we do Cocky? Delete, Delete, Delete, ban, lock down, make the board private? Lock me out - shut the site down - become paranoid - "there's bad people on the internet that will come in here and say bad things". C'mon - you seem a bit wiser then that. You know what the end result of that would be... I don't need to tell you.