The Conseugas are seconds from Villazon and are great if you like the punch or hoyo type cigars. There is actually a reference sheet for which cigars connies are seconds of... As I type this I am sitting on a bundle (25) connie No. 18M which is supposed to be seconds of Punch after dinner - My favorite out of those available.

Ref Chart:
http://m-a-t.com/cigars/connie.html


Haven't tried the Indio though.