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    Quote Originally Posted by SmokinDVM View Post
    Let the Dems destroy our National morality??? WTF, haven't the repugs done a good enough job of that already? And religious zealots don't like us, more because of the present shitstain, than any other reason. If you think Clinton getting a BJ was a big deal, you need to get a life, and get a grip on reality.

    Yep, I have that choice, untill the "moral" fucktards get control of all three branches of gov. and try to make this a theocracy. Right now, we're not that much different than those countries you hate sooo much.

    Haven't the right wing scare mongers used this line enough? What a fucking joke! Just like your hero Darth cheney, what a loser.

    Now wait a minute, Barry - you can't have it both ways. Either you're going to have the "repugs" as the right wing conservatives with this extremist religious ideal - or you're going to have the "repugs" as being no different than the democrats in their morality... If the tendency is towards the religious right (which it is) you are naturally going to have a higher standard of morality... Certainly the demo's are not carrying the banner of the moral party, that's for sure (even though they're riding on that train, whooping and hollerin' at this very moment)...

    On at least one point I have to agree with you - you don't want to create a theocracy in this or any other country. Bad for business... But - I really don't think we have anything to worry about. I think we're quite a long ways away from that...

    And Barry - if you're truly going to be honest - you have to admit you've not seen anything about George Bush (either one) or Ronald Reagan fiddling with the woman around them in the White House. Maybe you know something I don't. Under the current administration you have to admit at least the woman aren't cowering under their desks as it was when Clinton was in office... Foley - well - you're gonna get a whacko on both sides of the aisle from time to time. You just gotta be REAL careful that your whacko sex-crazed politician isn't your leader...

    But hey, bro - even though you like playing chicken little doesn't really mean the sky is falling. Clearly - you do have a pretty nice pile of sand you have you're head bored into, though...

    Oh - and BTW - would you please chat with your fellow dems and ask them to slow down on legislating out smoking in every corner of our country. It's getting harder and harder for me to have a good cigar when I'm out and about and they're not listening to me because I'm a "repug"... THANKS!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ggiese View Post
    Now wait a minute, Barry - you can't have it both ways. Either you're going to have the "repugs" as the right wing conservatives with this extremist religious ideal - or you're going to have the "repugs" as being no different than the democrats in their morality... If the tendency is towards the religious right (which it is) you are naturally going to have a higher standard of morality... Certainly the demo's are not carrying the banner of the moral party, that's for sure (even though they're riding on that train, whooping and hollerin' at this very moment)...
    Nobody but the repuglicans are trying to have it both ways. True morality, and radical right-wing religious ideals are not mutually inclusive. "Naturally going to have a higher standard of morality", MY FUCKING ASS!! Have you been sleeping for the last six years? The right-wingnuts have been involved in one scandal after another. The Democrats never claimed to have a monopoly on morality like the right-wingnuts, who then proceed to commit the most perverse acts possible. Those who most strongly profess their goodness, are always the ones doing the most vile shit.

    Quote Originally Posted by ggiese View Post
    On at least one point I have to agree with you - you don't want to create a theocracy in this or any other country. Bad for business... But - I really don't think we have anything to worry about. I think we're quite a long ways away from that...
    Not far enough away from that for my comfort.

    Quote Originally Posted by ggiese View Post
    And Barry - if you're truly going to be honest - you have to admit you've not seen anything about George Bush (either one) or Ronald Reagan fiddling with the woman around them in the White House. Maybe you know something I don't. Under the current administration you have to admit at least the woman aren't cowering under their desks as it was when Clinton was in office... Foley - well - you're gonna get a whacko on both sides of the aisle from time to time. You just gotta be REAL careful that your whacko sex-crazed politician isn't your leader...
    Dumbya was a cheerleader, proving he would prefer boys. Reagan couldn't remember that he even had a dick, besides it was too hard to get it out while wearing the diapers. We're not talking about the occassional whacko, except as he relates to the impropriety and subsequent cover-up FOR AT LEAST SIX YEARS. The repuglican leaders, yes the moral majority , let a sexual predator operate
    freely so they could keep the power. Sick fucks. They might as well all be wearing white collars.
    Quote Originally Posted by ggiese View Post
    But hey, bro - even though you like playing chicken little doesn't really mean the sky is falling. Clearly - you do have a pretty nice pile of sand you have you're head bored into, though...
    Better a nice pile of sand, than a repuglican leaders ass. In case you hadn't noticed, wipe the brown off your ears, the right wing religious whack-jobs agenda, their mission statement, includes the creation of a completelt theocratic US.

    Quote Originally Posted by ggiese View Post
    Oh - and BTW - would you please chat with your fellow dems and ask them to slow down on legislating out smoking in every corner of our country. It's getting harder and harder for me to have a good cigar when I'm out and about and they're not listening to me because I'm a "repug"... THANKS!!
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    Clinton lied under oath which is a felony which is why he was impeached. The only reason he was not removed from office is because the "shitstain" Democrats in the US Senate all voted against removing him from office which is the most despicable partisan display of a vote that this country has ever seen.

    That is far worse than anything that anything a Republican president ever did. Barry's refusal to own up to the facts further demonstrates him to be the true piece of shit asshole that he is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CoventryCat86 View Post
    Clinton lied under oath which is a felony which is why he was impeached.
    I see, you think lying about getting a blowjob, and pedophelia are equal offenses. No, wait, you think being a pedophile, and knowingly covering up a pedophiles actions, is OK. That's the most sick, twisted, moronic shit I've ever heard.
    Quote Originally Posted by CoventryCat86 View Post
    The only reason he was not removed from office is because the "shitstain" Democrats in the US Senate all voted against removing him from office which is the most despicable partisan display of a vote that this country has ever seen.
    NO, the lack of oversight, and investigations, of the administration over the last six years is the most despicable show of partisanship bullshit this Country has ever seen. Your continued whining about Clinton is pointless, and only serves to highlight how much of a bitch you really are.

    Quote Originally Posted by CoventryCat86 View Post
    That is far worse than anything that anything a Republican president ever did.
    Well, let's see. Dumbya lied about WMD's, attacked a sovereign nation without provacation, illegally outed a CIA agent, committed international war crimes, violated multiple Constitutional Amendments, and let thousands of Americans twist in the wind during Katrina, to name just a few.
    Now that I think about it, Clintons bj was much worse. Bill, you're a fucking moron, but a good little bitch for your right wing masters.

    BTW, it looks like the CT-02 (Simmons), CT-04 (Shays), races have been called "leaning Democrat". I guess most of the people in CT don't agree with your blind support of pedophile protectors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmokinDVM View Post
    I see, you think lying about getting a blowjob, and pedophelia are equal offenses. No, wait, you think being a pedophile, and knowingly covering up a pedophiles actions, is OK. That's the most sick, twisted, moronic shit I've ever heard. NO, the lack of oversight, and investigations, of the administration over the last six years is the most despicable show of partisanship bullshit this Country has ever seen. Your continued whining about Clinton is pointless, and only serves to highlight how much of a bitch you really are.

    Well, let's see. Dumbya lied about WMD's, attacked a sovereign nation without provacation, illegally outed a CIA agent, committed international war crimes, violated multiple Constitutional Amendments, and let thousands of Americans twist in the wind during Katrina, to name just a few.
    Now that I think about it, Clintons bj was much worse. Bill, you're a fucking moron, but a good little bitch for your right wing masters.

    BTW, it looks like the CT-02 (Simmons), CT-04 (Shays), races have been called "leaning Democrat". I guess most of the people in CT don't agree with your blind support of pedophile protectors.
    It doesn't matter what I think you fucking stupid piece of shit, the fact is that LYING UNDER OATH is a FELONY and that's what Clinton did which is why he was impeached. You can lie to your wife all you want Barry but when you do it under oath, it's a FELONY. I'm not "whining" about Clinton, you brought him into this discussion and part of your foaming at the mouth rant and you refuse to accept reality.

    LMFAO The Connecticut Congressional races are called "leaning Democrat" by who exactly, the complete idiot lefties like you? I see you are too much of a chicken shit blowhard to take my bet. I will bet you anything you want that Simmons and Shays will win. C'mon you fucking blowhard, put your money or cigars where you shitty mouth is or STFU for once will ya?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CoventryCat86 View Post
    It doesn't matter what I think you fucking stupid piece of shit, the fact is that LYING UNDER OATH is a FELONY and that's what Clinton did which is why he was impeached. You can lie to your wife all you want Barry but when you do it under oath, it's a FELONY. I'm not "whining" about Clinton, you brought him into this discussion and part of your foaming at the mouth rant and you refuse to accept reality.

    LMFAO The Connecticut Congressional races are called "leaning Democrat" by who exactly, the complete idiot lefties like you? I see you are too much of a chicken shit blowhard to take my bet. I will bet you anything you want that Simmons and Shays will win. C'mon you fucking blowhard, put your money or cigars where you shitty mouth is or STFU for once will ya?

    Bill, Bill, Bill... Barry knows what Clinton did - so does everyone else. It's a matter of record - was all over the news and TV's when it was happening - well documented - undeniable - and a body of evidence that was well beyond a reasonable doubt. The single most embarassing thing that has ever happened to the democratic party.

    But - as is the democrat way - let's forget about it and move on - try to destroy the credibility of those that investigated it - and eventually fully deny anything ever happened. Now it's time to see if we can find ANYTHING to embarass the republican party (even if it's grasping at straws or make something else out of what's there)

    Please...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoventryCat86 View Post
    It doesn't matter what I think you fucking stupid piece of shit, the fact is that LYING UNDER OATH is a FELONY and that's what Clinton did which is why he was impeached. You can lie to your wife all you want Barry but when you do it under oath, it's a FELONY. I'm not "whining" about Clinton, you brought him into this discussion and part of your foaming at the mouth rant and you refuse to accept reality.

    LMFAO The Connecticut Congressional races are called "leaning Democrat" by who exactly, the complete idiot lefties like you? I see you are too much of a chicken shit blowhard to take my bet. I will bet you anything you want that Simmons and Shays will win. C'mon you fucking blowhard, put your money or cigars where you shitty mouth is or STFU for once will ya?
    The fact is, you fucking sub-moron, YOU brought up Clinton. Just like every other right wing freak, you can't get Clinton out of your mind. You really should get professional help. If you continue on your present course, people might think you're gay for him.

    The real problem was, you righty freaks kept trying to implicate him in a crime of some sort, wasting millions of dollars in the process. All you could get him for was lying about a blowjob, that had NOTHING to do with running this Country. You pedophile protectors were so pissed, you're still crying about it a decade later.
    See, the normal people in this Country, that wouldn't include you, don't give a shit that Clinton got a bj. So, they don't give a shit that he tried to hide the fact. What we did care about, is that fucking retards, that would include you, wasted millions of dollars, and valuable time, crusading against bj's instead of trying to do some good for this Country.

    Even if it really was embarassing to the Democratic party, which it isn't, it pales in comparison to the shit the repuglicans have been doing over the last six years.

    No need to find something to embarass the repugs, they're doing a fine job all on their own.

    The CT races (simmons and shays), were called "leaning Democrat" by Evans-Novak Political Report. Check it out, they have some interesting things to say, for a conservative publication. Dumbass.
    So, I'll take your bet. I've got 5 dog rockets that says at least one of the three CT races will go to a Democrat.

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    ...and i'm still waiting to see if bill is still backing tom reynolds...i got 10 cigars that say that reynolds gets beat....oh bill??

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmokinDVM View Post
    The fact is, you fucking sub-moron, YOU brought up Clinton. Just like every other right wing freak, you can't get Clinton out of your mind. You really should get professional help. If you continue on your present course, people might think you're gay for him.

    The real problem was, you righty freaks kept trying to implicate him in a crime of some sort, wasting millions of dollars in the process. All you could get him for was lying about a blowjob, that had NOTHING to do with running this Country. You pedophile protectors were so pissed, you're still crying about it a decade later.
    See, the normal people in this Country, that wouldn't include you, don't give a shit that Clinton got a bj. So, they don't give a shit that he tried to hide the fact. What we did care about, is that fucking retards, that would include you, wasted millions of dollars, and valuable time, crusading against bj's instead of trying to do some good for this Country.

    Even if it really was embarassing to the Democratic party, which it isn't, it pales in comparison to the shit the repuglicans have been doing over the last six years.

    No need to find something to embarass the repugs, they're doing a fine job all on their own.

    The CT races (simmons and shays), were called "leaning Democrat" by Evans-Novak Political Report. Check it out, they have some interesting things to say, for a conservative publication. Dumbass.
    So, I'll take your bet. I've got 5 dog rockets that says at least one of the three CT races will go to a Democrat.

    Yep - reasoning just like them teenagers...

    I've heard it a thousand times before: "Oh, c'mon - what's the big deal - so what I lied to you and I did a coupla bad things - so what - yeah, okay - so I did thousands and thousands of dollars worth of damage, but it wasn't like I was REALLY committing a crime..." (after catching the little rugrats on an alchohol induced rampage ripping up cars, tearing down street signs, spraypainting public fixtures, etc.)

    Oh, yeah - and interspersed with plenty of cursing... Almost forgot that, although I do have some morality and therefore a problem with just tossing around curse words like they're part of everyday language... (Ya never know who's watching, ya know - like maybe someone on the fence on the issues... ) I gotta tell ya - cursing is always the most effective means of getting my attention and moving me to change my opinions, that's for sure...

    Democrats... Sheessshhhhh....

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmokinDVM View Post
    The fact is, you fucking sub-moron, YOU brought up Clinton. Just like every other right wing freak, you can't get Clinton out of your mind. You really should get professional help. If you continue on your present course, people might think you're gay for him.

    The real problem was, you righty freaks kept trying to implicate him in a crime of some sort, wasting millions of dollars in the process. All you could get him for was lying about a blowjob, that had NOTHING to do with running this Country. You pedophile protectors were so pissed, you're still crying about it a decade later.
    See, the normal people in this Country, that wouldn't include you, don't give a shit that Clinton got a bj. So, they don't give a shit that he tried to hide the fact. What we did care about, is that fucking retards, that would include you, wasted millions of dollars, and valuable time, crusading against bj's instead of trying to do some good for this Country.

    Even if it really was embarassing to the Democratic party, which it isn't, it pales in comparison to the shit the repuglicans have been doing over the last six years.

    No need to find something to embarass the repugs, they're doing a fine job all on their own.

    The CT races (simmons and shays), were called "leaning Democrat" by Evans-Novak Political Report. Check it out, they have some interesting things to say, for a conservative publication. Dumbass.
    So, I'll take your bet. I've got 5 dog rockets that says at least one of the three CT races will go to a Democrat.

    No, you brought Clinton into this discussion first Barry, go back and check. His was 100% GUILTY of lying under oath even if you want to deny it, it doesn't change the facts, he lied under oath which is why he was impeached. Democrats are proven pedophile protectors. I've already given you the proof regarding the 50th State Rep. seat here in Connecticut so shut the fuck up and quit while you're behind.

    Five "dog rockets" you sure don't sound very sure of yourself there> How about five premiums? Since I'm going to win this bet, I really don't want five of your shitty cigars.

    BTW, thanks for the link. I bookmarked it "Democratic Fantasies for 2006" so we can review it on November 8th and see how wrong they were.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SmokinDVM View Post
    I see, you think lying about getting a blowjob, and pedophelia are equal offenses. No, wait, you think being a pedophile, and knowingly covering up a pedophiles actions, is OK. That's the most sick, twisted, moronic shit I've ever heard. NO, the lack of oversight, and investigations, of the administration over the last six years is the most despicable show of partisanship bullshit this Country has ever seen. Your continued whining about Clinton is pointless, and only serves to highlight how much of a bitch you really are.

    Well, let's see. Dumbya lied about WMD's, attacked a sovereign nation without provacation, illegally outed a CIA agent, committed international war crimes, violated multiple Constitutional Amendments, and let thousands of Americans twist in the wind during Katrina, to name just a few.
    Now that I think about it, Clintons bj was much worse. Bill, you're a fucking moron, but a good little bitch for your right wing masters.

    BTW, it looks like the CT-02 (Simmons), CT-04 (Shays), races have been called "leaning Democrat". I guess most of the people in CT don't agree with your blind support of pedophile protectors.
    Have you ever seen Clinton's TV interview, where he made the famous "I did not have sex with that woman!" statement, through a voice stress analyzer, Barry? I've seen it put through several different types and they're all the same. About the only thing Clinton was truthful about is when he said, "good night" - and that was even borderline...


    But, please - keep talking about what a great person Clinton was. Like lemmings over the cliff...

    Sorry - get real, Barry - we won't be any better off with the democratic party than we are now. Kerry and Hillary are waiting in the wings for their chance to be pres... Great choices there!!! We're in for a real interesting trip if either are those two knuckleheads are elected...

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    bill...i offered you a 10 cigar bet...i say tom reynolds gets beat by a non-politician...jack davis....as howie mandel might say "bet...or no bet"???...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoventryCat86 View Post
    Barry's refusal to own up to the facts further demonstrates him to be the true piece of shit asshole that he is.
    Hmmm, let's see...post #18, your first "contribution" to this thread, was a personal attack against me. Then you piss and moan, playing the wounded little bitch, when it gets thrown back at you.

    You need to get a grip and relax. Maybe then your balls will drop, if you really have any.

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    Barry - Bill didn't even come into this thread until AFTER you started with your hate-filled vulgar posts. It started with Post #15 and went down from there...

    Quite trying to play the victim. You are a very intelligent person, who clearly has a passionate hate for people who do not share the same political view. As soon as someone presents an opposing logical argument - into the gutter you go!!! It really is a shame - because it really does take away from your apparent intelligence when you spew your hate filled diatribes. I may be wrong - but I doubt seriously you're winning any converts here... I do believe, however, you're really impressing on others why they should not be a part of the democratic party...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ggiese View Post
    Barry - Bill didn't even come into this thread until AFTER you started with your hate-filled vulgar posts. It started with Post #15 and went down from there...

    Quite trying to play the victim. You are a very intelligent person, who clearly has a passionate hate for people who do not share the same political view. As soon as someone presents an opposing logical argument - into the gutter you go!!! It really is a shame - because it really does take away from your apparent intelligence when you spew your hate filled diatribes. I may be wrong - but I doubt seriously you're winning any converts here... I do believe, however, you're really impressing on others why they should not be a part of the democratic party...
    Could you please elucidate exactly where in post #15 that I made a personal attack on someone here? Or, is this only about the language I use?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmokinDVM View Post
    Nobody but the repuglicans are trying to have it both ways. True morality, and radical right-wing religious ideals are not mutually inclusive. "Naturally going to have a higher standard of morality", MY FUCKING ASS!! Have you been sleeping for the last six years? The right-wingnuts have been involved in one scandal after another. The Democrats never claimed to have a monopoly on morality like the right-wingnuts, who then proceed to commit the most perverse acts possible. Those who most strongly profess their goodness, are always the ones doing the most vile shit.

    Not far enough away from that for my comfort.

    Dumbya was a cheerleader, proving he would prefer boys. Reagan couldn't remember that he even had a dick, besides it was too hard to get it out while wearing the diapers. We're not talking about the occassional whacko, except as he relates to the impropriety and subsequent cover-up FOR AT LEAST SIX YEARS. The repuglican leaders, yes the moral majority , let a sexual predator operate
    freely so they could keep the power. Sick fucks. They might as well all be wearing white collars.
    Better a nice pile of sand, than a repuglican leaders ass. In case you hadn't noticed, wipe the brown off your ears, the right wing religious whack-jobs agenda, their mission statement, includes the creation of a completelt theocratic US.

    VOTE NO on CA prop 86!!
    Wow - is this for real??? I'd say this sure displays your angst with not getting your way. I haven't seen this much whining and crying and and cussing and throwing around absolutely unsubstantiated allegations since I took away my 16 year old daughters car keys after she violated curfew...

    AH - HAAA!!!! So THAT'S where my kids are getting it from - THE DEMOCRATS!!!

    Glad you cleared that up for me...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ggiese View Post
    ...throwing around absolutely unsubstantiated allegations...
    Why don't you list 'em, and I'll break 'em down for you, in real easy to understand bits.
    I understand how people who only listen to the right wing drivel artists aren't used to long sentences, and complex ideas.

    BTW, teenagers are not hard to understand at all. They're all brain dead.
    If they become Democrats, they'll grow out of it. If they become repugs, they'll be brain dead forever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmokinDVM View Post
    Nobody but the repuglicans are trying to have it both ways. True morality, and radical right-wing religious ideals are not mutually inclusive. "Naturally going to have a higher standard of morality", MY FUCKING ASS!!:smiley36: Have you been sleeping for the last six years? The right-wingnuts have been involved in one scandal after another. The Democrats never claimed to have a monopoly on morality like the right-wingnuts, who then proceed to commit the most perverse acts possible. Those who most strongly profess their goodness, are always the ones doing the most vile shit.

    Not far enough away from that for my comfort.

    Dumbya was a cheerleader, proving he would prefer boys. Reagan couldn't remember that he even had a dick, besides it was too hard to get it out while wearing the diapers. We're not talking about the occassional whacko, except as he relates to the impropriety and subsequent cover-up FOR AT LEAST SIX YEARS. The repuglican leaders, yes the moral majority , let a sexual predator operate
    freely so they could keep the power. Sick fucks. They might as well all be wearing white collars.
    Better a nice pile of sand, than a repuglican leaders ass. In case you hadn't noticed, wipe the brown off your ears, the right wing religious whack-jobs agenda, their mission statement, includes the creation of a completelt theocratic US.

    VOTE NO on CA prop 86!!

    Vulgarity and personal attacks - post #17...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ggiese View Post
    Vulgarity and personal attacks - post #17...
    Not a single personal attack in that post. This is all just about your fragile sensibilities then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmokinDVM View Post
    Not a single personal attack in that post. This is all just about your fragile sensibilities then?
    Read it again, Barry - and this time - take your rose colored glasses off please...

    It's way past defending your position, and more like being an ass towards others who don't share your position. You're not making an argument - you're making a statement...

    Barry, I think you know me well enough to know I'm don't have "fragile sensibilities". With some of the rhetoric I've seen from you on other boards, I've given you the benefit of the doubt - political leanings aside. I could honestly care less if you're a full blown left-wing democrat, and you should care less I have a leaning towards the right. Bill has FULLY supported you in the past knowing full well you were about as far left as one can get. To engage in some of the nastiness that's become your hallmark, and to call me a "shithead" because I think Clinton was immoral and a liar - seriously, you ARE crossing lines of sensibility...

    If you don't know you're personally insulting people, maybe you should. Or - more likely from what I've seen - maybe you don't care... Either way, you should really re-think your rhetoric.

    I definitely do not think a ban poll is in order. But I also disagree with Sid that you, and ultimately some your nonsense, is good for this board. This vulgar, belittling, juvenile crap takes away from your potential to be a good guy.

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