Barry, see, this is the problem I'm talking about, you want the fight to continue just so you can yell louder (not that your last post did this, it didn't, but it wanted to leave the issue open).

I'm not saying it doesn't matter, it does. BUT, and pay attention because clearly this is the part you missed: THE PART OF EACH PARTY POINTING FINGERS AND SAYING YOU'RE A BUNCH OF IMMORAL IDIOTS IN THAT PARTY OF YOURS BECAUSE YOU'VE DONE SO AND SO is BULLSHIT because people on both sides have done it. Should we criminalize the bastards who partook all the way to jail, ABSOLUTELY. Should we make this a partisan thing NOOOOOOO, because both parties have done this crap.

Did I just yell real loud, yes, why because I walked into a burning room with two people fighting over who gets the furniture in the burning room, while the important thing is to just get out of the room.

And yes, I am directing the majority of my post at you as the majority of your posts, not threads started, relate to politics not cigars.

Have you contributed to the cigar part, no question about it, but lately it seems all you want to do is ream the Republican party and anybody who agrees with them. The discussion on pot, fine, not a party politics thing as we noted, people on both sides support it, it's just on the one side it's the young and old, not just the young. You want to discuss issues like that apart from partisan views that's fine. But all the rhetoric utilized to demonstrate your hatred of the Republican party is tired. We know you hate them, 'nuff said now. So, just stop talking party politics. And yeah, I say this for anybody who wants to get involved in these kinds of discussions, once we know who you hate, that's enough.