a response to bullshit...

bigpoppapuff · 10-28-2006, 10:14 AM

as george continues his smear campaign...i figured i'd respond...

CR was started by drkaje,along with me and upstatemike...i was not a mod..i was an admin..i did my best to make the bb viable....after being told by many that jake was posting too much porn...i agreed and left myself ...stating that if anyone was looking for me,i could be found at CS..and posted a link .....the only reason i went back was to respond to some posts that larry made,along with gg and cc...who posted anti-larry shit,as well.
around the same time,i had invited smokersdelite over here...she posted a few times then went to CR and made some mention of CS being boring...with no activity....i sent her a pm calling her judas....she told mike and mike banned me....

as for HP....everyone,including ZZ and the other mods know that i'm blkfrankwhite....i have,IIRC,more than 600 posts over there and have participated in a lot of cigar related things while there.

my friendship with george can never be repaired...his stalking me and posting lies tells me what kind of person he really is....and all of this while knowing of my health issues...which are quite serious at this point....if anyone wants me gone....say the word....i have other bb's that i can hang at....VIbb,HP,RNB,and a few others...some of which george has been banned from....

want me gone??.......say the word......george...you can fuck yourself!!...

**CoventryCat86** · 10-28-2006, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by bigpoppapuff

as george continues his smear campaign...i figured i'd respond...

CR was started by drkaje,along with me and upstatemike...i was not a mod..i was an admin..i did my best to make the bb viable....after being told by many that jake was posting too much porn...i agreed and left myself ...stating that if anyone was looking for me,i could be found at CS..and posted a link .....the only reason i went back was to respond to some posts that larry made,along with gg and cc...who posted anti-larry shit,as well.
around the same time,i had invited smokersdelite over here...she posted a few times then went to CR and made some mention of CS being boring...with no activity....i sent her a pm calling her judas....she told mike and mike banned me....

as for HP....everyone,including ZZ and the other mods know that i'm blkfrankwhite....i have,IIRC,more than 600 posts over there and have participated in a lot of cigar related things while there.

my friendship with george can never be repaired...his stalking me and posting lies tells me what kind of person he really is....and all of this while knowing of my health issues...which are quite serious at this point....if anyone wants me gone....say the word....i have other bb's that i can hang at....VIbb,HP,RNB,and a few others...some of which george has been banned from....

want me gone??.......say the word......george...you can fuck yourself!!...

There must be more to it than that. But actually why would you call her "Judas" in the first place? She comes over here and finds that it's not to her liking, so what? I have a few friends from othr boards who I've suggested to that they check this place out. A few of them have said that this place is boring and doesn't have much activity. What the HELL does that have to do with "Judas?" Just because one of your friends doesn't share every opinion with you, you claim they betrayed you? I don't get that Sid, I really don't.

And even if that was the complete story, why on earth would Mike ban you just for that? What was the "ball of flames" he was talking about? I've never known Mike to ban ANYONE there (not even the spammers), even me who's pretty much been nothing but a thorn in larry's side ever since you invited me over there.

Mike finally clipped larry's wings and the bullshit has stopped. You ought to think about coming back to CR Sid, and bring the monkey with you.

**cigar no baka** · 10-28-2006, 10:46 AM

I won't miss you Sid, leave if you want.

bigpoppapuff · 10-28-2006, 10:52 AM

that could be reason enough to stay...just to know that my being here makes it unpleasant for you.....pssst...baka....go fuck yourself,too...

**cigar no baka** · 10-28-2006, 10:56 AM

Thanks for showing your classlessness again Sid. Just one more shovelful in the hole you're digging for yourself.

**ggiese** · 10-28-2006, 11:29 AM

Sid - like it or not - call me a friend or not - you and Barry (expecially Barry) are not going to start the BS you've started on other boards here. Any reasonable person who has seen it before does not want it starting here. That kind of hate filled rhetoric does nothing but breed contempt and devisiveness. I think you see where it's led here - considering this issue has the board in an uproar right now...

I KNOW you think what Barry has been saying here is not OK. You know full well the kinds of reactions he's had elsewhere with this nonsense. And you know full well the depth of his nastiness elsewhere. A simple "Tone it Down!" would have been sufficient - IN THE INTEREST OF MAINTAINING DECORUM AT THIS BOARD!!! But no - instead you and Barry have to focus your efforts on getting rid of CC and his cronies so Barry can post the way he wants... That's pure and utter BS...

You've killed the messenger for the message.... You've attacked me personally before today over this issue - I asked as a friend to consider what you were doing - you told me to "bring it on", even though there really was nothing to bring on. You accused me of "threatening" to remove you from this board. That was BS and you know it. Quit trying to spin this issue like a top...

The value you've placed in our friendship (yours and mine) is obvious. You really don't give a hoot about our friendship because you wouldn't have started publically attacking me on my position the way you did. Re-read what you've written, Sid. Maybe it was out of anger (I'd like to think that was the case), but it was no less damaging to our relationship. You can't expect to say those things and not cause a rift between us.

And "medical issues" do not give you cause to be as nasty as you've been the past few weeks. It really is inexcuseable. Please don't use that excuse to justify your campaign of trying to squelch the voices of reasonableness. I have medical issues you're ignoring too, Sid. I have NEVER used that as an excuse to justify the way I was acting - and would never asked ANYONE to consider that if I was posting like a you were this week. The bird doesn't fly...

C'mon, Sid - does it really suprise you that I will not stand by and watch you flame this board down? You know me much better than that...

For the umpteenth time, Sid - use your friendship and influence with Barry to have him TONE IT DOWN!!! Hate me all you want, Sid - can we get this message through in the interest of the OVERALL community - not just what you and Barry want.

**Evillepaintball** · 10-28-2006, 01:03 PM

I don't know what all the arguing is about here, nor do i care. All I know is that another board that I frequent is populated by a couple thousand people, mostly ages 14-17. Rarely is there a harsh word spoken. I would have thought adults could be more mature about their problems than kids. Thats all I'm going to say on the topic.

**CoventryCat86** · 10-28-2006, 01:12 PM

Originally Posted by Evillepaintball

I don't know what all the arguing is about here, nor do i care. All I know is that another board that I frequent is populated by a couple thousand people, mostly ages 14-17. Rarely is there a harsh word spoken. I would have thought adults could be more mature about their problems than kids. Thats all I'm going to say on the topic.

Then let me sum up for you "what all the arguing is about here."

It's all about Barry's nasty, vulgar, rude, disrespectful and hate-filled posts and Sid's defensiveness and support of Barry when others find objection with Barry's behavior. As the discussion has continued on, other issues are being brought to light like Barry and Sid's past behavior on other boards. Open discussion is good evilpaintballs, problems get worked out rather than swept under the rug.

**heftysmokes** · 10-28-2006, 01:24 PM

Originally Posted by Evillepaintball

I don't know what all the arguing is about here, nor do i care.

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**cls515** · 10-28-2006, 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by bigpoppapuff

want me gone??.......say the word......george...you can fuck yourself!!...

You have never personally attacked me on this board, and I have never attacked you. This is not what this is about. But, I'll say that I don't feel hate belongs on this board. You said you hate all Christian right wings. I feel this is inappropriate. Even if it was you hating left wingers, I don't think hate should be posted on this board.

**CoventryCat86** · 10-28-2006, 02:44 PM

Originally Posted by heftysmokes

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LOL!! I missed that part Hefty!

Well, if he doesn't care then his post is even more meaningless.

**SmokinDVM** · 10-28-2006, 02:47 PM

What we have here is two people who started making personal attacks against another board member. They didn't like the fact that the other member wouldn't just lay down and take their bs, so they started whining untill a ban poll was initiated. A ban poll against a board member that had NOT VIOLATED ANY BOARD RULES. Upon finding out that they had failed to drum up anyone to support their bs ban, they started to spread their vile crap around the rest of CS, which IS a violation of board rules btw.
They continue to attack, spread lies, and start rumors about anyone that doesn't agree with them.
They insist on perpetuating the fantasy that there is some sort of power struggle going on here. I, for one, have no interest in having any kind of control of this, or any, BB. I have no desire to see ANY of the people here leave.

I came to this BB because there was a good amount of trading, passes etc., something that was lacking at the last cigar bb I was a member of. Which, btw, the admin. there had never expressed any problems with me. I have a distinct feeling that CR's switching to a heavily moderated format has something to do with a certain member from here, ahem>cc<ahem, who can't stop stalking and attacking one of the members at CR.

I don't know the reasons bpp left CR, other than the ones he posted above, as we have never discussed them. The conversations I've had with bpp have always been about cigars, his pets, and politics. Never have we discussed anything about banning, or trying to get anyone to leave CS.

So, cc and gg, and whoever else wants to, can continue their childish witch hunt for as long as they like, and I'm very sure they will, but I don't give a crap anymore. If people here on CS, and that's more than the three from the idiotic ban poll, don't want my continued participation in other areas of the BB, then they'll ask me to leave. There is no conspiricy, or attempt to "burn down the house", as a few children here are whining about, there is only those spoiled children who are upset with the way their game is going, so they are holding their breath untill they get their way.

**CoventryCat86** · 10-28-2006, 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by cls515

You have never personally attacked me on this board, and I have never attacked you. This is not what this is about. But, I'll say that I don't feel hate belongs on this board. You said you hate all Christian right wings. I feel this is inappropriate. Even if it was you hating left wingers, I don't think hate should be posted on this board.

Ya know cls515, you make an excellent point and I agree with it 100%. Now I know some of you are saying "Yeah well YOU do it too" and for that I would like to apologize to this community for any posts of mine that appear to be hate filled because I don't hate anyone here on this board. Yep, I know that some of the things I posted were over the line, I lost my temper with Barry's constant over the top political crap because in spite of numerous warnings, he refused to change.

Once again, I'm sorry if I used hateful language.

**CoventryCat86** · 10-28-2006, 02:58 PM

Originally Posted by SmokinDVM

What we have here is two people who started making personal attacks against another board member. They didn't like the fact that the other member wouldn't just lay down and take their bs, so they started whining untill a ban poll was initiated. A ban poll against a board member that had NOT VIOLATED ANY BOARD RULES. Upon finding out that they had failed to drum up anyone to support their bs ban, they started to spread their vile crap around the rest of CS, which IS a violation of board rules btw.
They continue to attack, spread lies, and start rumors about anyone that doesn't agree with them.
They insist on perpetuating the fantasy that there is some sort of power struggle going on here. I, for one, have no interest in having any kind of control of this, or any, BB. I have no desire to see ANY of the people here leave.

I came to this BB because there was a good amount of trading, passes etc., something that was lacking at the last cigar bb I was a member of. Which, btw, the admin. there had never expressed any problems with me. I have a distinct feeling that CR's switching to a heavily moderated format has something to do with a certain member from here, ahem>cc<ahem, who can't stop stalking and attacking one of the members at CR.

I don't know the reasons bpp left CR, other than the ones he posted above, as we have never discussed them. The conversations I've had with bpp have always been about cigars, his pets, and politics. Never have we discussed anything about banning, or trying to get anyone to leave CS.

So, cc and gg, and whoever else wants to, can continue their childish witch hunt for as long as they like, and I'm very sure they will, but I don't give a crap anymore. If people here on CS, and that's more than the three from the idiotic ban poll, don't want my continued participation in other areas of the BB, then they'll ask me to leave. There is no conspiricy, or attempt to "burn down the house", as a few children here are whining about, there is only those spoiled children who are upset with the way their game is going, so they are holding their breath untill they get their way.

Feeds through bullshit translator:

My name is Barry AND I'VE DONE NOTHING WRONG, NONE OF THIS IS MY FAULT, IT'S ALL THEIR FAULT, I DIDN'T BREAK ANY RULES, I AM NOT WRONG, I'M BEING ATTACKED FOR NO REASON

Barry, once again the issue here is YOUR behavior, not mine, not George's not even Sid's. Are you really that far out of touch with reality? Your hate-filled, nasty, disrespectful, vulgar posts are the issue and as evidenced here, you absolutely, positively will not change mostly because you've got yourself convinced that you've done nothing wrong which is why I voted to completely ban you from this board, you're far more insufferable than Scotty ever was and in the end, those who didn't want him around here at all were ultimately proven to be correct in the long run. Unlike you Barry, I do have a desire to see you leave unless you own up to your sins and apologize and keep your personal hatred of me to yourself in the future.

Ignorance is a very bad and extremely dangerous personality flaw.........so is refusing to ever admit you're wrong which I have NEVER seen you do. Let's face it Barry, your behavior is WRONG! Maybe rather than a ban poll, we should do a poll on your behavior and see what the community thinks. Even Sid agrees you're way over the top, he told me on that during one of our phone conversations but he's either too timid to confront you on that or he's encouraging your behavior just for laughs and you're being played for the sucker.

Keep whining but it only makes you look worse.

**ggiese** · 10-28-2006, 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by SmokinDVM

What we have here is two people who started making personal attacks against another board member. They didn't like the fact that the other member wouldn't just lay down and take their bs, so they started whining untill a ban poll was initiated. A ban poll against a board member that had NOT VIOLATED ANY BOARD RULES. Upon finding out that they had failed to drum up anyone to support their bs ban, they started to spread their vile crap around the rest of CS, which IS a violation of board rules btw.
They continue to attack, spread lies, and start rumors about anyone that doesn't agree with them.
They insist on perpetuating the fantasy that there is some sort of power struggle going on here. I, for one, have no interest in having any kind of control of this, or any, BB. I have no desire to see ANY of the people here leave.

I came to this BB because there was a good amount of trading, passes etc., something that was lacking at the last cigar bb I was a member of. Which, btw, the admin. there had never expressed any problems with me. I have a distinct feeling that CR's switching to a heavily moderated format has something to do with a certain member from here, ahem>cc<ahem, who can't stop stalking and attacking one of the members at CR.

I don't know the reasons bpp left CR, other than the ones he posted above, as we have never discussed them. The conversations I've had with bpp have always been about cigars, his pets, and politics. Never have we discussed anything about banning, or trying to get anyone to leave CS.

So, cc and gg, and whoever else wants to, can continue their childish witch hunt for as long as they like, and I'm very sure they will, but I don't give a crap anymore. If people here on CS, and that's more than the three from the idiotic ban poll, don't want my continued participation in other areas of the BB, then they'll ask me to leave. There is no conspiricy, or attempt to "burn down the house", as a few children here are whining about, there is only those spoiled children who are upset with the way their game is going, so they are holding their breath untill they get their way.

So can I take it by this post you are going to tone it down? Even in the politics section?

Excellent!!!