Bush owes troops an apology, not Kerry

[Lopaka]

If you want to talk about twisted...

I served.
Kerry served.

I can't help but point out some errors here.

Dumbya...nope, didn't serve.
W. served in the Texas Air National Guard, that's still in the Uniform.

Cheney... didn't either.

Rummy... not even.
Rummy served in the Active Navy as a pilot and instructor from 1954-1957.
In 1957, he transferred to the Ready Reserve and continued his Naval service in flying and administrative assignments as a drilling reservist until 1975. He transferred to the Standby Reserve when he became Secretary of Defense in 1975 and to the Retired Reserve with the rank of Captain in 1989.

Ad nauseam.

Just a bunch of repug chickenhawks. No brains, no plan, no balls.

Just correcting some minor errors. You may not like they way they served, however they did wear the uniform.

However, other then those errors you made..../YAWN

[SmokinDVM]

You're right, rummy did serve, kinda. And, look what he's done for the military since then.

Duhbya however, was at least AWOL, and more likely a deserter, from the make-believe service( cause that's really what it was at the time, nothing more than a way to avoid real service). He was, and remains to be, a POSER.

They're all criminals, and deserve no less than to get a good taste of water-boarding, first hand.


Anyone who really believes that Kerry was actually denigrating the Troops, is wallowing in the stupid pool, along with duhbya.

[ggiese]

Isn't it just like Kerry to suggest that military personnel are stupid for serving in the first place?? Kinda like suggesting that "Dumbya" was in the "fake" military, even though he really did serve in a US military uniform... I suppose you're going to start with the "baby killer" stuff next. That's Vietnam era thinking.

And, yes - spin it the way you want - Kerry made a pretty screwed up statement. The other thing I find interesting about his statement - he made an "I apologize, but Bush should apologize too..." strings attached apology. Apologize, explain what you meant - AND MOVE ON!!! A guy with Kerry's supposed political savvy really should know better... The reason he's still embroiled in this mess is because it's coming off as arrogant and really meant to say what he said...

BTW - that "fake" military and AWOL stuff didn't work when Bush was first elected, and I highly doubt it's going to hold water now. You might want to find something else with more substance...

[SmokinDVM]

Isn't it just like Kerry to suggest that military personnel are stupid for serving in the first place??

No.

Kinda like suggesting that "Dumbya" was in the "fake" military, even though he really did serve in a US military uniform...

Nothing even remotely similar. Anyone who isn't caught up in the rrw spin zone knows that over the last 40 years the way the Reserve and N.G. Troops are used has changed drastically. In the '60's, the N.G. and Reserve were used by the rich and well connected to keep their precious little boys out of harms way. IMO, these little pussies are even worse than the draft dodgers that just left the Country. At least the draft dodgers weren't trying to fake it.

I suppose you're going to start with the "baby killer" stuff next.

Why, did you do something to some babies that you want to discuss here?

That's Vietnam era thinking.

Is that anything like "pre 9/11 thinking? What are you, an rrw bobblehead?

And, yes - spin it the way you want - Kerry made a pretty screwed up statement. The other thing I find interesting about his statement - he made an "I apologize, but Bush should apologize too..." strings attached apology. Apologize, explain what you meant - AND MOVE ON!!! A guy with Kerry's supposed political savvy really should know better... The reason he's still embroiled in this mess is because it's coming off as arrogant and really meant to say what he said...

Kerry's only mistake was to try to act like a comedian. Something he is obviously ill equipped to do. And dumbya should do more than apologize, he should serve prison time, for the crimes he's perpetrated against the Troops, the Constitution, and against Humanity. Why do you, and the rest of the rrw's, hold dumbya and his cronies to a lower standard than everyone else? I do understand that they, especially dumbya, are mentally challenged, but I find that a poor excuse at best.

BTW - that "fake" military and AWOL stuff didn't work when Bush was first elected, and I highly doubt it's going to hold water now. You might want to find something else with more substance...

Like I posted above, just because the koolaide drinkers find it convenient to overlook the glaring shortcomings of the idiot in cheif, doesn't make the facts any less true.

[ggiese]

Kerry's only mistake was to try to act like a comedian. Something he is obviously ill equipped to do.

Nope - Kerry's only mistake is being involved in the political arena - something he's ill equipped to do. The "comedic" piece is is just further proof...

Hey, BTW Barry - if you have any influence with the Dems - would ya please ask 'em to put Kerry up there as a presidential candidate? He's done more good for the Republican party than any of the front runners...

[SmokinDVM]

Nope - Kerry's only mistake is being involved in the political arena - something he's ill equipped to do. The "comedic" piece is is just further proof...

Not really, as he has been, and will continue to be, a fine Senator. You all will have to come to grips with the fact that his State will continue to re-elect him untill hell freezes over.

Hey, BTW Barry - if you have any influence with the Dems - would ya please ask 'em to put Kerry up there as a presidential candidate? He's done more good for the Republican party than any of the front runners...

Kerry was unlikely to get a second shot at running for Prez, even before this last faux pas. All he's done now, is guarantee that.

Besides, you all know that the Clintons will be moving back into the White House at the end of '08.

[Lopaka]

You're right, rummy did serve, kinda. And, look what he's done for the military since then.

Duhbya however, was at least AWOL, and more likely a deserter, from the make-believe service( cause that's really what it was at the time, nothing more than a way to avoid real service). He was, and remains to be, a POSER.

They're all criminals, and deserve no less than to get a good taste of water-boarding, first hand.


Anyone who really believes that Kerry was actually denigrating the Troops, is wallowing in the stupid pool, along with duhbya.

Sooo Kerry writing his own purple hearts to get out of Veitnam makes him a war hero how?

From your logic you have be president with combat experience to send troops to into combat or your a criminal. Sooo lets see...

Clinton- Never served in a Uniform. Sent troops into Somalia, Haiti, Bosnia, Afghanistan and Kosovo.

Lets keep looking back more...

FDR, Never served in a uniform...World War II

Woodrow Wilson... occupied Veracruz and Haiti and WWI

This is what I can think of off the top of my head. We can also discus LBJ and Vietnam because LBJ was never a combat officer just an observer through out WWII. Carter just served on a battleship and subs his naval career. He send troops into harms way.

We can spin this top around and around and around.

[Shelby07]

I'm wondering what Kevin would say to Kerry if he were a member of this group and tried to push off an apology like the one he made to this group.

[kevin7]

I'm wondering what Kevin would say to Kerry if he were a member of this group and tried to push off an apology like the one he made to this group.

There would serious problems

[SmokinDVM]

Sooo Kerry writing his own purple hearts to get out of Veitnam makes him a war hero how?

I never said he was a war hero, not that he isn't, but I never made that call. What I did say, is that he SERVED. And, not only did he serve, but he served in a combat position, and came under enemy fire. So, you can continue to tout the swiftboaters bs, but there is still no comparison between Kerry and dumbya, when discussing who would really know what the Troops are like, and the shit they are enduring right now.

From your logic you have be president with combat experience to send troops to into combat or your a criminal.

No, I never said any such thing. What makes dumbya a criminal is his blatant covering up and ignoring evidence so he could drag the Country into an illegal and unnecessary war in Iraq. He abandoned the just war in Afghanistan, in an attempt to satisfy his hardon for Saddam. Now he's losing on both fronts, because of his bullshit actions. He's committed the ultimate transgression possible IMO, by sending our young men to die over a personal vendetta.

Sooo lets see...

Clinton- Never served in a Uniform. Sent troops into Somalia, Haiti, Bosnia, Afghanistan and Kosovo.

Lets keep looking back more...

FDR, Never served in a uniform...World War II

Woodrow Wilson... occupied Veracruz and Haiti and WWI

This is what I can think of off the top of my head. We can also discus LBJ and Vietnam because LBJ was never a combat officer just an observer through out WWII. Carter just served on a battleship and subs his naval career. He send troops into harms way.

We can spin this top around and around and around.

You can keep spinning all you want, but none of your examples even remotely relate to the circumstances leading up to, and our continued involvement in, Iraq.

[cigar no baka]

I never said he was a war hero, not that he isn't, but I never made that call. What I did say, is that he SERVED. And, not only did he serve, but he served in a combat position, and came under enemy fire. So, you can continue to tout the swiftboaters bs, but there is still no comparison between Kerry and dumbya, when discussing who would really know what the Troops are like, and the shit they are enduring right now.

No, I never said any such thing. What makes dumbya a criminal is his blatant covering up and ignoring evidence so he could drag the Country into an illegal and unnecessary war in Iraq. He abandoned the just war in Afghanistan, in an attempt to satisfy his hardon for Saddam. Now he's losing on both fronts, because of his bullshit actions. He's committed the ultimate transgression possible IMO, by sending our young men to die over a personal vendetta.



You can keep spinning all you want, but none of your examples even remotely relate to the circumstances leading up to, and our continued involvement in, Iraq.

[nhcigarfan]

(I was looking for a "don't bite the hook" smiley but couldn't find one)

[SmokinDVM]

I think you need to check your shoes, cause there's no bs coming from over here.

[dpenix76]

Does anyone like the Scorpions?Man,those guys rock.I really miss them.

[Lopaka]

I never said he was a war hero, not that he isn't, but I never made that call. What I did say, is that he SERVED. And, not only did he serve, but he served in a combat position, and came under enemy fire. So, you can continue to tout the swiftboaters bs, but there is still no comparison between Kerry and dumbya, when discussing who would really know what the Troops are like, and the shit they are enduring right now.

No, I never said any such thing. What makes dumbya a criminal is his blatant covering up and ignoring evidence so he could drag the Country into an illegal and unnecessary war in Iraq. He abandoned the just war in Afghanistan, in an attempt to satisfy his hardon for Saddam. Now he's losing on both fronts, because of his bullshit actions. He's committed the ultimate transgression possible IMO, by sending our young men to die over a personal vendetta.



You can keep spinning all you want, but none of your examples even remotely relate to the circumstances leading up to, and our continued involvement in, Iraq.

Yeah, I agree with everyone. BS, /yawn. Not worth my time to response anymore.