Funny Story.

[chefchris]

I mean there's all sorts of useful advice in the bible relevent for modern living.

Stoning to death disobedient children, keeping slaves, selling children into slavery, animal sacrifices, putting to death those who continue to work on the sabbath, how eating shelfish and homosexuality are equal abominations along with wearling clothes made from different threads and planting different crops in the same field.

You can burn a bull at the alter as it creates a pleasing odour for the lord (so I guess he appreciates a good smoke). But I'm not aware about of anything smoking cigars.

All useful stuff to live your life by if you're that way inclined I suppose, though personally I've always liked to have a few oysters and a cigar after a hard days work on Sundays ( knows how many different types of thread I've got in my clothes)!

rich

hey, nice to meet you, too. although, i don't remember your name, i'm sure you told me.

[chefchris]

well, the funniest thing, i could've sworn you introduced yourself but i searched everywhere. i didn't see anything. hmmm. odd.

[Lopaka]

well, the funniest thing, i could've sworn you introduced yourself but i searched everywhere. i didn't see anything. hmmm. odd.

Actually no he hasn't and he either didn't read my post or is ignoring it.

I only titled it Hey Rsanz

[rsanz]

Actually no he hasn't and he either didn't read my post or is ignoring it.

I only titled it Hey Rsanz

No I didn't see it. But sort of introduced myself above. Is that cool or do you need more?

Cheers
Rich

[Quint]

When I smoke a good cigar and sip a good scotch I feel like I'm in Heaven does that count ???


Religion is such and explosive subject I'm surprised this thread has actually maintain some civility.

smokem if ya gottem.........

[Dru Lee Parsec]

RSanz:

I am an atheist, I am also smart enough to realize that acting like an asshat towards Christians is not the way to convert anyone to an objective and logical understanding of the universe.

You're welcome to your opinions and I even agree with most of them. But your method of expressing them sucks and is counter productive to atheist everywhere.

ChefChris is a good guy with a great sense of humor. He mentioned that he was a Christian and you start acting like an asshat. He wasn't preaching at us. He wasn't telling us that we're all evil because we don't believe the same things he does. He just mentioned it in context of the story. Your response was way out of line. You're the one that was the antagonist, not Chris.

[stjohnroe]

OK, fine, my 2pence (cents if you prefer) on the point of the original post.

The argument is about intention against dogma. Chris (as far as I can tell so far) and probably his boss are good people, but they have a difference of opinion on what being a good christian is all about. Some people believe that the concept of "turning the other cheek" and "do unto others as you would have them do unto you" are the true tenets of being a good christian (and as far as I am concerned, being a true, good human being). Some people on the other hand are a bit to tied up in the technicalities of the whole thing. I consider myself a decent human being but I love Calamari and mussles but (Leviticus 11:10 ) But anything in the seas or rivers that does not have fins and scales, regard as an abomination. Do not eat their meat and regard their carcasses as an abomination. says that I have a problem.

The fact is that I will never hold it against anyone that they hold views that are not in agreement with mine (within reason of course). The problem comes when someone tries to impose the beliefs that they hold upon me, whether that is by the process of refusing to employ me due to the difference in beliefs, swearing at me in the street, planting a bomb on the train that I am travelling in, or not allowing me to smoke a cigar outside of a bar that I like spending time at.

Chris, if this is the point that you were trying to make, stand up for yourself and tell anyone who tries to give you shite to off.

[rsanz]

RSanz:

I am an atheist, I am also smart enough to realize that acting like an asshat towards Christians is not the way to convert anyone to an objective and logical understanding of the universe.

You're welcome to your opinions and I even agree with most of them. But your method of expressing them sucks and is counter productive to atheist everywhere.

ChefChris is a good guy with a great sense of humor. He mentioned that he was a Christian and you start acting like an asshat. He wasn't preaching at us. He wasn't telling us that we're all evil because we don't believe the same things he does. He just mentioned it in context of the story. Your response was way out of line. You're the one that was the antagonist, not Chris.

Dru...

1 - I'm not trying to convert (or witness to) anyone. Certianly not on my 2nd ever post here.

2 - I'm pretty sure I never said I was an ashiest. A pretty bold assumption.

3 - You're probably right, it was an inappropriate response to a well meaning funny story.

4 - Get off my fucking case.

6 - Don't give me any grief for missing out #5 (it was crap anyway).

7 - So what is the deal with being a christian and not allowing your employees to accept gifts of cigars?

9 - (#8 was a little bit shit too) I have fundie friends and get along okay with them.

10 - good night

Cheers
Rich