Seasoning the humidor....in-season

**indysmoker** · 12-05-2006, 12:49 AM

You all can call me an idiot (I can take it)

Here is a thought....Rather than seasoning the humidor once a year and having to temporarily displace the cigars why cant you season certain parts of the humidor throughout the year and not ever have to take the cigars out?

Okay I'm up to being called all kinds of names,,
eddie

**Dru Lee Parsec** · 12-05-2006, 01:09 AM

As I understand it, seasoning the humidor just means adding enough humidity so the cedar can stabilize at 65%. Once you're there you don't need to "Re-season" the humidor unless you let it dry out. Just check the humidifier (or beads) and add water when needed.

Or am I missing something? I don't remember ever hearing about seasoning a humidor every year.

Oh wait, I didn't call you any names. Um, I'm not very good at this. Hmm, let's see . . . How about :

Booger head!

Sorry, I haven't called anybody names since I was 4 years old. I'm kind of out of practice.

**heftysmokes** · 12-05-2006, 01:12 AM

Buy a cooler and some beads...you'll need them soon enough if you stick around here. Then you don't need to season anything.

Boogerhead.

**Shelby07** · 12-05-2006, 01:20 AM

Hey Boogerhead - You don't have to season the humi once a year, just whan you first get it. The purpose is to get the inside wood humid enough so it doesn't absorb the moisture from your first few cigars. An unseasoned box will just draw moisture from the cigars into the wood. If it ever dries out then you would have to reseason it, but if you keep your credo or beads charged it will never dry out.

I like that name --- Boogerhead! "Idiot" has been taken already.

**Desert Rat** · 12-05-2006, 02:46 AM

I couldn't help myself.

Just had to rate this thread terrible, and ding you two reputation points (or whatever their called) for coming up with the idea of taking cigars out of a humidor to season it ROFL.

That and the idea of auctioning off a whatchamacallit in here makes me have to ask: "Exactly what kind of cigars are you smoking?? "

**indysmoker** · 12-05-2006, 08:02 AM

once again..the 62% is because the lid was open

**SideWinder** · 12-05-2006, 08:39 AM

Ok, I think I'm a bigger boogerhead than Indysmoker.... I use water from my drinking tap (it's softened and then ran through a reverse osmosis filter) to keep my (dare I say it?) sponge and silicon wet. So, feel free to berate and educate!

**indysmoker** · 12-05-2006, 09:25 AM

a fellow hoosier coming to one's aid! Booger Mcfarland plays for the colts. I take it as a compliment.

I hope my cigars meet desert rat's approval. I guess dessert rat thought I would hav a humidor of swisher sweets?

**Shelby07** · 12-05-2006, 09:32 AM

Originally Posted by SideWinder

Ok, I think I'm a bigger boogerhead than Indysmoker.... I use water from my drinking tap (it's softened and then ran through a reverse osmosis filter) to keep my (dare I say it?) sponge and silicon wet. So, feel free to berate and educate!

I don't know what the reverse osmosis does, but don't they use salt to soften water?

**SideWinder** · 12-05-2006, 09:52 AM

Originally Posted by Shelby07

I don't know what the reverse osmosis does, but don't they use salt to soften water?

Yeah, we use salt to soften the water. The RO filter takes 100% of most of the nasty elements in tap water out and 97% of the rest of the nasty shit. I think sodium falls in the 97% grouping. Am I abusing my cigars? The humidity levels stay pretty constant.

**Shelby07** · 12-05-2006, 10:17 AM

Originally Posted by SideWinder

Yeah, we use salt to soften the water. The RO filter takes 100% of most of the nasty elements in tap water out and 97% of the rest of the nasty shit. I think sodium falls in the 97% grouping. Am I abusing my cigars? The humidity levels stay pretty constant.

I don't know, but considering that a gallon of distilled water costs about 97 cents and lasts a few months, I'd just wonder why you're taking the chance with sticks that could cost quite a bit more each. Seems that might be penny wise and pound foolish.

**SideWinder** · 12-05-2006, 10:19 AM

Originally Posted by Shelby07

I don't know, but considering that a gallon of distilled water costs about 97 cents and lasts a few months, I'd just wonder why you're taking the chance?

Well, damn Shelby, since you put it that way....

**WOXOF** · 12-05-2006, 10:25 AM

A buddy of mine has a Reverse osmosis thingy. He has a bunch of saltwater fish tanks he has to keep supplied. I think the RO should be just as good as distilled water if you don't have to buy it(already have the RO thingy). But you still need the beads.

**stjohnroe** · 12-05-2006, 10:25 AM

Tap water will eventually clog up whatever humification device you use and reduce its efficiency. Distilled water is cheap, buy some.

**SideWinder** · 12-05-2006, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by WOXOF

A buddy of mine has a Reverse osmosis thingy. He has a bunch of saltwater fish tanks he has to keep supplied. I think the RO should be just as good as distilled water if you don't have to buy it(already have the RO thingy). But you still need the beads.

I have a container of Madelaine's Crystal Clear Tobacco Humidifier. Forgive my ignorance, but is that what you're calling "beads?"

**indysmoker** · 12-05-2006, 11:32 AM

having had a 200 gallon reeftank.....and A Reverse osmosis unit....it is just as good if not better than distilled water. Same thing a different way of getting there....Reverse osmosis basically runs the water through different filters using a slow and high pressurized process. one of which I know is charcoal. I used it to keep a different type of "stick" healthy....coral.....A coral frag (maybe the size of your pinky) could run anywhere from 25 to 75 and up.....RO water is okay to use.

cited proof (hey its on the internet)
The answer is distilled and r/o are so close in quality that it is a 'wash'.
Some say (I agree) that r/o has better flavor because the oxygen hasn't been boiled out of it. Distilled tends to have a 'flat' taste. R/O is far more convenient and cost effective. The difference is that distilled cost about 3 to 5 times as much per gallon to produce. My home has a special R/O lead-free tap and a connection to the ice maker. That is hard to do with any bottled water. There are some fine r/o systems out there. You can visit WQA.org and look up "drinking water devices". Whatever you choose make sure they meet the WQA and NSF standards for performance. You can check them out at NSF.org. The National Sanitation Foundation is the most respected lab for that sort of thing, and the Water Quality Association represents water treatment equipment dealers world wide. So your decision is really one of convenience and what you feel comfortable with. Good Luck, hope I helped, Fred

**WOXOF** · 12-05-2006, 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by SideWinder

I have a container of Madelaine's Crystal Clear Tobacco Humidifier. Forgive my ignorance, but is that what you're calling "beads?"

They'll do, but I would upgrade to the Heartfelt beads from Viper(do a search, lots of good info on them in here)

Originally Posted by indysmoker

having had a 200 gallon reeftank.....and A Reverse osmosis unit....it is just as good if not better than distilled water. Same thing a different way of getting there....Reverse osmosis basically runs the water through different filters using a slow and high pressurized process. one of which I know is charcoal. I used it to keep a different type of "stick" healthy....coral.....A coral frag (maybe the size of your pinky) could run anywhere from 25 to 75 and up.....RO water is okay to use.

cited proof (hey its on the internet)
The answer is distilled and r/o are so close in quality that it is a 'wash'.
Some say (I agree) that r/o has better flavor because the oxygen hasn't been boiled out of it. Distilled tends to have a 'flat' taste. R/O is far more convenient and cost effective. The difference is that distilled cost about 3 to 5 times as much per gallon to produce. My home has a special R/O lead-free tap and a connection to the ice maker. That is hard to do with any bottled water. There are some fine r/o systems out there. You can visit WQA.org and look up "drinking water devices". Whatever you choose make sure they meet the WQA and NSF standards for performance. You can check them out at NSF.org. The National Sanitation Foundation is the most respected lab for that sort of thing, and the Water Quality Association represents water treatment equipment dealers world wide. So your decision is really one of convenience and what you feel comfortable with. Good Luck, hope I helped, Fred

yeah what he said.

**cls515** · 12-05-2006, 12:36 PM

Originally Posted by indysmoker

Some say (I agree) that r/o has better flavor because the oxygen hasn't been boiled out of it. Distilled tends to have a 'flat' taste.

I'm pretty sure distilled water that you find in the grocery store is more free of contaminants than the reverse osmosis water.

You don't boil out oxygen when distilling. If you did that, you wouldn't end up with water. The process works by taking some water, boiling it so that water evaporates, while the impurities in the water does not. The evaporated, pure water vapor, is allowed to condense and is collected.

**indysmoker** · 12-05-2006, 12:54 PM

that was taken out of a website (not my personal opinion) and I think it was an opinion by the author. You do boil hydrogen and oxygen and it does remove some hydrogen and oxgen atoms.

distilling is the process of boiling contaminants out....(like a hot spring)

osmosis is the process of pushing water through layers of filters to remove the finest of particles that boiling may or may not remove....i think either is suitable for your cigars.
For god sakes in the old days they used fruit in humidors that were fertilized with human and animal feces.

lets just say that both will are acceptable. However, it is easier to just go buy a gallon of distilled water rather than buying a 189.00 reverse osmosis unit.....but if you have the ro unit..why not use it.

**SideWinder** · 12-05-2006, 12:58 PM

I'm having problems with the heartfelt industries website. It isnt coming up. I am also unable to ping the domain name. Has it changed from what is posted in Viper's profile?