well it came in the mail today, bigger than i thought it was going to be, no complaints here about that though. Main thing i was concerned about was if where you place your cigars if that was going to be angled too much. Thats the main reason i needed a new ashtray so my cigars wouldnt slide into the ashes. But it looks like it'll work nice and theres plenty of room for the wrappers and whatever else you would throw into an ashtray.