I'm just playing devils advocate and having a little fun. To be honest now, I now know if someone said Torano Exodus 1959 Robusto or Torano Exodus 1959 Robusto Gold I would know he is referring to the same cigar. And to those that I picked on like CC & GG I'll admit that either one has forgotten more on cigars than I know at the moment and I would be glad to take there advice on cigars. I pick on people I like and I can take just as good as I give.