That's not the point.Originally Posted by bigsmoke
Comb2 check with preembargo. He doesn't post here much but he works with OpFTH.
Very nice of you to do this.
Midnight Toker
That's not the point.
Comb2 check with preembargo. He doesn't post here much but he works with OpFTH.
Very nice of you to do this.
Last edited by WOXOF; 04-25-2007 at 04:05 AM.
My point is that I work hard for my money. Just because someone decides to go into the military and risk their life for their country does not make that person a hero to me. I live in Canada. We do not have troops in Iraq, but we do have troops in Afghanistan. I do not agree that Canada should have troops there at all. Being Canadian, I will not offer my thoughts on U.S. military activities. We all choose our own paths in life. I do not expect anyone to feel pitty for my personal choices and I don't need others trying to make me feel guilty. Hey, that is as best as I can explain my opinion. Like it or not, it is mine. And money is not the issue here at all. I honestly hope there are no hard feelings.
Is it just me or does anyone else not care for the ignorance displayed here?????
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As a member of the US Army (West Point Cadet) and son of a disabled veteran, I for one want to tell you how much of an ungrateful, naive, idiot you are.
Danger Pay, yes they get it. Unfortunately, that adds to the very little ammount they get to begin with. A good portion of the enlisted population is eligable for Food Stamps.
It isn't about guilt, it's about appreciation.
Less than 1% of the United States is in the Armed Forces. For the sake of argument we will round that up to a whole %.
1% of the nation is doing the work of defending the other 99%, working 15 month tours (recently extended from 12 to 15) and in the near future (from General Casey himself) it will be a 12 n 12 off rotation.
1% is defending 99%. They barely see their families, work on little sleep for little pay, and face death on a regular basis. This isn't about pity, this is about appreciation for that 1% who is selfless enough to put their life on the line for that other 99. This isn't about pity, its about gratitude. It's about appreciation.
This isn't about Iraq or Afghanistan, because the fighting man has no say in where he goes. You want someone to bitch to about the War on Terror, bitch policy makers don't put that blame on the military itself. So what if you don't agree with Canada being in Afghanistan? It is your countrymen fighting and dieing for you and the rest of you Canuks.
Now I'm pretty wound up pretty tight right now. The fact that ignorant pieces of filth like you exist has me shitting Tiffany Cufflinks.
Amen to that Brother!!!As a member of the US Army (West Point Cadet) and son of a disabled veteran, I for one want to tell you how much of an ungrateful, naive, idiot you are.
Danger Pay, yes they get it. Unfortunately, that adds to the very little ammount they get to begin with. A good portion of the enlisted population is eligable for Food Stamps.
It isn't about guilt, it's about appreciation.
Less than 1% of the United States is in the Armed Forces. For the sake of argument we will round that up to a whole %.
1% of the nation is doing the work of defending the other 99%, working 15 month tours (recently extended from 12 to 15) and in the near future (from General Casey himself) it will be a 12 n 12 off rotation.
1% is defending 99%. They barely see their families, work on little sleep for little pay, and face death on a regular basis. This isn't about pity, this is about appreciation for that 1% who is selfless enough to put their life on the line for that other 99. This isn't about pity, its about gratitude. It's about appreciation.
This isn't about Iraq or Afghanistan, because the fighting man has no say in where he goes. You want someone to bitch to about the War on Terror, bitch policy makers don't put that blame on the military itself. So what if you don't agree with Canada being in Afghanistan? It is your countrymen fighting and dieing for you and the rest of you Canuks.
Now I'm pretty wound up pretty tight right now. The fact that ignorant pieces of filth like you exist has me shitting Tiffany Cufflinks.
He has every right to be "ignorant." He has the right to have an opinion, even if it's not the same as yours or mine.Is it just me or does anyone else not care for the ignorance displayed here?????
That's why we have dedicated people serving in the Armed Forces, so guys like you and me and Bigsmoke can have different opinions or beliefs.
I don't see it as an opinion. I see it as a great disrespect!!!!
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Just because it is his opinion and he is entitled to it does not make it correct.
One could have the opinion that it is perfectly acceptable to murder innocent children and then feast on their corpses. But just because it's their opinion doesn't make it right.
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He does have a right to be ignorant - but not necessarily on this board. This is a hex-driven, member-moderated board and ignorance, depending on what level, will get your ass lit, if not charred.
And while you're right - our boys and girls are serving so we can express our opinions or beliefs, IMHO we don't disrespect those risking a lot more for an ignorant noob shooting off his mouth.
Look at that... I plumb got myself 5 raisins and 7 termites.
Anecdotal
All I'm saying is, why not tell him why he's an asshole instead of just telling him he's an asshole? All of the bird-flipping, name calling bullshit has gotten this board exactly nowhere in the past month.
JCH replied with an eloquent, dead-on rebuttal to Bigsmoke's post that, IMO, was entirely more convincing and heartfelt than finding the "smiley face giving the finger"
Sorry if I failed to make my point in my first post.
Kettle, meet Black.
Midnight Toker
The issue is that you don't "get it".
Sure you do. I personally think you're a shit-stirring troll, but that's just my opinion. No hard feelings.
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wait... Canada has an army?
then why make the statement at all? your non-statement is in itself a backhanded comment.
#1 - we don't pity you.
#2 - with decisions on the military - whether WE AMERICANS (and of course, or fellow cross-BOTLs like Newf, Drew, Roham, etc.) agree or disagree with the decisions that lead our GIs in harms way, we support them.
Sure it is - you made a point to bring it up. or did you forget?
Look at that... I plumb got myself 5 raisins and 7 termites.
Enough already. The danger pay thing was a bit of a joke, I was just fooling around then this all started and I just wanted to state my beliefs. I don't believe that wars solve anything. I don't want to fight with any of you anymore than I want to go fight in Iraq. Someone made a joke about Canada's military. Does that upset me? Not really, you can insult my country. As a Canadian, I can travel freely abroad with no hassles because of my country of origin. Canada is a great place to live. I visit the United States frequently. I also have many relatives there that are retired servicemen/women. That being said, many of my relatives feel the same way that I do about war. Freely and openly being able to share ideas is a great thing. That is why we all come here to enjoy cigars together. Don't expect me to share all the same feelings about all aspects of life because some of you think I should. If I love Partagas' and some of you guys think they are crap, does that make me an asshole? i hope not. It is just a difference of opinion. I have said before and I will say it again, it sickens me when our Canadian troops die in Afghanistan. I am done commenting on this issue. Like I said before, I did not mean anyone any harm.
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The fact you keep running off at the mouth, then playing the "it was a joke" victim card, is what makes you that.
The fact you keep running off at the mouth, then playing the "it was a joke" victim card, is what makes you that.
Not worthy of an intelligent response. I will not fight here guys so lay off.
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All because the military is guarding your right to do that. And the reason your troops are in Afghanastan is due to a group that would like to take that away from you. Not that you would know any better. After all - "Ignorance is bliss".
Well - that would depend. Given the way you've been espousing your beliefs on this board I'd think if you stated an opinion like that you would get a similar reaction. You have such a great way of talking about things.
Clearly you're not done commenting on the issue (given the reaction in this thread, and then you do it again a month later). And it's becoming increasingly clear you do mean harm. Maybe you ought to seriously rethink your strategy...
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