Hershey wants to know...

[Shelby07]

I went to CL and joined up, got involved a bit......and found out for myself that I don't really like the "feel" of it....when I participated in a PIF and got PM's from the sender to "make sure you post to my i-trader rating" instead of "hey, hope you liked the smokes, did they arrive safely"......I knew what it was all about and have since withdrawn from the site as much as I can and will leave completely once a commitment I have there is fulfilled. :

I can't deny that I've had similar feelings at times, but CL is a different board witha very different culture. Some folks like that.

There are also a lot of posts there that interest me, especially some of the discussion about the SCHIP, and a bunch of folks that don't exhibit the behavior that you point out. Let's let CL grow in their own way and not worry too much about them. I hope they continue to grow. It can only help the hobby.

I enjoy CS more now since things have toned down some and the conflict has more or less gone away, and the mean, insulting posts are saved for the asshats that deserve them......but I gotta admit, CS has the best asshat roasters in the bidness!! :smiley2

I agree with you there, too. But I think we need to stop being so quick to feed on our young and especially each other.

[cigarsarge]

But I think we need to stop being so quick to feed on our young

But our young are so tender and tasty...

[ggiese]

Why is it that some are encouraged to beat dead horses, while others are told to stop? That's funny!!!

BTW - Admittedly, I was being facetious about reinstating CoventryCat. I've talked to him, and I don't think you have to worry, at least for the time being - he really has no desire to come back - Whether you reinstated him or not. No need to wait for that call, Hex - it's not coming. That should make at least a couple of people happy...

But the board is definitely different since he's been gone...

Is the place better? I think some really think so. It's what they want. Others clearly have some issues with the direction this board is going. Funny how that works.

Common guys what was done and in the past is exactly that. If some one wants to bring a banned member back maybe a poll on that can be started to avoid further complications or disagreement betwen people here.

Dan - sorry, but it's bugging me. You've said this more than a few times, so I think you might be confused...

"Common" is "belonging equally to, or shared alike by, two or more or all in question: i.e. common property; common interests."

I think you're really trying to say, "Come on!", or the more popular contraction, "C'mon"

[Shagaroo]

[cigarsarge]

ROTFLMAO...Nice one.

[Shelby07]

...Others clearly have some issues with the direction this board is going.

Yeah, I did see that Hershey Walker was not happy with the direction the board is taking, but it seemed to me that most folks disagreed with him.

[BunkyX]

As a member of this board for almost two years I can say I am fairly well pleased with the less hostile attitude now. Although I never post much, I read the board almost nightly and it was getting a bit disappointing at all the b.s. that was going on. I know that if that kind of behavior was going on at my B&M I would not go there. And this board is kind of like a cyber-B&M. There are conversations, hints, brags, suggestions, and help here just as at a B&M.
Some times I do get a little dismayed at the treatment of newbies, I mean sure we have all read the same question fifty times in the last year about mold or bloom, or how do I season a humidor, or why does the wrapper crack, but we have heard it from fifty new members! And most of the time they get told "use the search". If you were to walk into any social setting and ask, "How's it going?" and get told, "Read the newsletter." What would you do?
So screw those who want hostility, we may not all agree on everything but at least we can state our opions (opinions are like assholes, everybody has got one and all of them but yours stinks). And as rational adults we just deal with it. After all this is cyberspace it is as real or unreal as we take it.
O.K. that's half of a Royal Jamaica Gold Toro worth.

[ggiese]

As a member of this board for almost two years I can say I am fairly well pleased with the less hostile attitude now. Although I never post much, I read the board almost nightly and it was getting a bit disappointing at all the b.s. that was going on. I know that if that kind of behavior was going on at my B&M I would not go there. And this board is kind of like a cyber-B&M. There are conversations, hints, brags, suggestions, and help here just as at a B&M.
Some times I do get a little dismayed at the treatment of newbies, I mean sure we have all read the same question fifty times in the last year about mold or bloom, or how do I season a humidor, or why does the wrapper crack, but we have heard it from fifty new members! And most of the time they get told "use the search". If you were to walk into any social setting and ask, "How's it going?" and get told, "Read the newsletter." What would you do?
So screw those who want hostility, we may not all agree on everything but at least we can state our opions (opinions are like assholes, everybody has got one and all of them but yours stinks). And as rational adults we just deal with it. After all this is cyberspace it is as real or unreal as we take it.
O.K. that's half of a Royal Jamaica Gold Toro worth.

I think you meant to say, "Opinions are like assholes - everyone's got one, and they all stink except yours..,"

Very true! VERY TRUE!!

I'm enjoying an Anejo #49 with an Irish coffee in the back yard - bastids at the Tossers concert last night told me I could smoke it - I then lit it up and then was yelled at by one of the management meanies there!!!

So - I saved it for tonight!!!

They were also putting a kebosh on moshing - not that I wanted any part of it, but is sure looked fun for the younger set!!!

Amazed me how many of us older folk were in attendance - although if you like Irish music, it was a GREAT night!!!

Royal Jamaicans - hmmmm.... Not bad, but the Anejo is MUCH nicer... Sorry...

[ggiese]

Yeah, I did see that Hershey Walker was not happy with the direction the board is taking, but it seemed to me that most folks disagreed with him.

Most folks? I don't think so...

Some folks? Most definitely!!!

[Shelby07]

Most folks? I don't think so...

Some folks? Most definitely!!!

Well, again we seem to disagree. I wrote exactly what I meant.

It seems to me that more folks here who have voiced an opinion seem to like an agenda free, less bashing board than not. That was my take on it...

but I'm not gonna split hairs.

[ggiese]

Well, again we seem to disagree. I wrote exactly what I meant.

It seems to me that more folks here who have voiced an opinion seem to like an agenda free, less bashing board than not. That was my take on it...

but I'm not gonna split hairs.

It's like saying, "Most people like Hillary Clinton" - Well, that really does depend on who you ask... Sure - 43% of those that would want a Democrat in office like Hillary, but that doesn't mean that MOST people like Hillary. I think you could also say that most people like George Bush - I mean, he is the president and was elected by the majority, right?

I don't know if that's "splitting hairs" - it sure does seems like it's more like your
perspective to me...

[ashauler]

I can't deny that I've had similar feelings at times, but CL is a different board witha very different culture. Some folks like that.

There are also a lot of posts there that interest me, especially some of the discussion about the SCHIP, and a bunch of folks that don't exhibit the behavior that you point out. Let's let CL grow in their own way and not worry too much about them. I hope they continue to grow. It can only help the hobby.



I agree with you there, too. But I think we need to stop being so quick to feed on our young and especially each other.

I understand that CL has its own culture, and you're right, some folks like that.........I just don't happen to be one of them. IMO, the "culture" there fosters the kind of behavior I pointed out......and yes, I agree that there are some members there that aren't interested in the back-slapping, and there are some good topics......