Cigar Store

[WOXOF]

What Drew said. Gotta have some kind of way for patrons to BYOB. Some type of coffee bar would be a nice touch imho. You dont have to have anything elaborate. Just a couple of leather sofas and a TV on the wall will get guys to hang out. Most guys hang out for the company not the amenities in my experience. Good luck!

[JFellows]

A Friendly and Respectful Fucking Staff. Granted, I'm young, but when I get harassed, followed around constantly like I'm going to steal something, or treated rudely/like I don't know anything about cigars, not only am I going to hold a personal grudge against a store, but I'll be sure to tell others not to go there as well. It's inexcusable (and a dumb idea) to treat ANY B/M customer with a lack of respect, after realizing how many things B/Ms have going against them already (taxes, anti-smoking legal discrimination, the customers' ability to buy cigars online for cheaper, etc). All I ask for is a friendly conversation with the proprietor, possibly a suggestion on a new blend to try, and a simple "thank you" when I go to pay.

[chefchris]

First of all, you need a handsome young man as "the face" for the store.

Now that that's squared away, I just look for a nice place to sit and talk. My B&M is just some nice chairs with a tv that we never watch. He also has a very nice selection of imports & microbrews. And next Sunday starts our Beer Club. But most of all is the friendship that he and I have now. We work together on getting new lines in. If he tries to contact a company with no response, I'll call and ask if they sell any where in MS and tell them the only decent shop in my area is his. That speeds things up a little bit. Worked with Tatuaje and Illiosoune (sp?).

It's seems to be good product and good conversation are gonna be the two biggest sellers.

[ashauler]

Thanks for all the input guys, I really appreciate it. Your comments are right along the lines that I expected them to be. I certainly hope to provide an atmosphere that will make people want to hang out and chat and smoke. That's what is lacking at the existing stores.

Being new to cigars myself, just over a year smoking them, I am trying to absorb as much information and knowledge as I can......so the "knowledgeable" staff may be somewhat lacking to start with, but there will be no lack of courtesy and effort put forth to make the customers happy........I just won't have this huge wealth of knowledge to draw from. I mean, I know what I like, but I won't have smoked every cigar that will be in my humidor....unless I start with a very limited inventory.

[spiffykyle]

I think that wireless thing is a great idea!

I go to my B&M for 1 of 2 reasons. Either to try a new cigar / get a recommendation, or because I want to smoke in a comfortable environment and talk with the other people there.

If they had WiFi I would most definitely be there with a laptop doing some work. Now that I am going to be traveling alot for work, this seems like a great thing to find wherever I end up going. You'd need a seperate area for that though, maybe a table or two.

I remember the bar at the student union where I went to school had WiFi in it. During the day it was a great place to hang out and study/work and smoke/drink (before the NY smoking ban).

Good luck man!!

spiffy

[Jonjonmacky]

A Friendly and Respectful Fucking Staff. Granted, I'm young, but when I get harassed, followed around constantly like I'm going to steal something, or treated rudely/like I don't know anything about cigars, not only am I going to hold a personal grudge against a store, but I'll be sure to tell others not to go there as well. It's inexcusable (and a dumb idea) to treat ANY B/M customer with a lack of respect, after realizing how many things B/Ms have going against them already (taxes, anti-smoking legal discrimination, the customers' ability to buy cigars online for cheaper, etc). All I ask for is a friendly conversation with the proprietor, possibly a suggestion on a new blend to try, and a simple "thank you" when I go to pay.

Dude i love you.. lol. you spoke my mind to the fullest of my feelin on that situation..

[FunkyCold5]

1. Relaxing atmosphere.
2. Helpful/Nice employees.
3. WiFi.
4. BYOB

I was thinking about starting my own B/M her also, but the amount to lease property here wouldn't make it feasable. That's why all the local B&M in Northern VA mark up their cigars, rent is too expensive.

Having WiFi and BYOB will create that enviroment where people would like to actually stay there long periods of time and just relax. With more customers staying longer, they'll tend to buy more cigars and smoke it there on the spot.

Another idea (might want to make sure you can do this) is to have private rooms with a table. You can rent it out for free for 1 hour or 2 to anyone who purchases $100+ worth of cigars. So, local customers who have weekly poker games can use that room to play poker. You are just providing a room and a table (whether normal table or a felt table), so the customer would have to bring their own poker chips and cards. 6-8 players, that's new customers for the store and you get business for the 2-3 hours they are there drinking and smoking.

There are a lot of ways to improve on a B&M. Just as long as you have cheap rent, and a great selections, it will be successful.

Andrew

[Cabaiguan Juan]

Another idea (might want to make sure you can do this) is to have private rooms with a table. You can rent it out for free for 1 hour or 2 to anyone who purchases $100+ worth of cigars. So, local customers who have weekly poker games can use that room to play poker. You are just providing a room and a table (whether normal table or a felt table), so the customer would have to bring their own poker chips and cards. 6-8 players, that's new customers for the store and you get business for the 2-3 hours they are there drinking and smoking.

That is a great idea. Like many of the others here who have answered, I go for conversation, to get out of the house, try new cigars. I think the BYOB is a great idea, a TV with the NFL or NBA package would be a great idea. A lounge is a must in my eyes. WiFi sounds nice, I think my B&M has it but I never use it. Coffee is a goiod idea. And then the obvious: selection good help, and atmosphere. WOXOF is right about a lounge needing nothing more then a sofa or two and a tv.

[ashauler]

O.K.......haven't found suitable property that I can afford. Was thinking of naming the place Ashauler's........yep, I'm not very imaginative. Does it sound alright?

I'm going to make the retail section seperate from the "members" area. In the retail section I will have a relatively small smoking area, newspapers, magazines, coffee and soda.

In the members area there will be a TV, leather sofa and recliners, wi-fi, a couple of tables with some comfy chairs for those that want to spread out and work a little on the intenet or whatever.......I'm trying to find some kind of portable tables or something that will work for people on the sofas that want to work on their laptops and don't want them in their actual laps. Humidified lockers and lockable individual liquor cabinets will be available.

What is the typical fee that is charged for the memberships to places like this? What do you guys feel is reasonable? Base it on a monthly fee with options to pay by the year? Tiered memberships of some type, or one price gets all?

Thanks for the help everybody.

[BigMacFU]

The name might make people think it is a gay bar. I've always read it as Ass-Hauler, even though it's clear on a cigar forum that you probably meant the S and H to stick together, Ash-auler.

[drew_goring]

O.K.......haven't found suitable property that I can afford. Was thinking of naming the place Ashauler's........yep, I'm not very imaginative. Does it sound alright?

I'm going to make the retail section seperate from the "members" area. In the retail section I will have a relatively small smoking area, newspapers, magazines, coffee and soda.

In the members area there will be a TV, leather sofa and recliners, wi-fi, a couple of tables with some comfy chairs for those that want to spread out and work a little on the intenet or whatever.......I'm trying to find some kind of portable tables or something that will work for people on the sofas that want to work on their laptops and don't want them in their actual laps. Humidified lockers and lockable individual liquor cabinets will be available.

What is the typical fee that is charged for the memberships to places like this? What do you guys feel is reasonable? Base it on a monthly fee with options to pay by the year? Tiered memberships of some type, or one price gets all?

Thanks for the help everybody.

From what I've seen a lot of places charge a monthly/yearly fee, as well as a per use fee. The monthly makes you a member and then you only pay as much as it is used. Usually with a max and a min for each month.

Sounds like you have some great ideas already.

[Shervin]

My fav B&M has three Flat Screens all on wall mounted swivel's, a poker area and a huge sub zero in the back for your bev of choice. Mix in large comfortable leather couches and good friends and you've got a recipe for a great atmosphere.

[chefchris]

Who do ya'll think is gonna run for President in 2008?