New Place for MaduroMan to respond

[ashauler]

A couple of question here? Now some people are jumping ugly on MM because of the one post that he said he hadn't smoked any real cubans. Which he admitted right away that he made a mistake. He was wrong.


Now my question to all of you that have been in trades with him is this. Did he send crap or damaged sticks?(I think this is a no.) Was he late on his end?(I think this is a no.) Did he not communicate during the trades?(I think this is a no.) Did he follow the rules for the PotPass and PIF?(I think this is a yes.)




Do I believe this should have been pointed out to him yes. Does he deserve to be watched some yes. NOW IF I WAS HIM I WOULD STAY QUIET ON THIS AND JUST MAKE SURE THAT I'M MORE CAREFULL IN THE FUTURE! I think his newbeness is showing and he needs to slow down a bit and take stock of what he is doing. It's easy to get caught up in the excitement and go over board and then , but he can recover as meltdown mood hasn't been reached yet.


Also all have to remember that if you want to post in the wishlist thread you should be looking to see if you could make anyone elses wishes come true.


DG

I think what I did was point out his mistake as regards the isom question. I took affront, personally, since I had sent him one and specifically stated it was an isom in the pot-pass thread, more or less inferring the one I sent was not REAL. I don't believe that I have been out of line with any of the posts I have made regarding this, and I think if the word REAL wasn't in his post, and the post had been anywhere other than the wish-list thread, my reaction would have been very different.

I have no history of flaming or unjustified attacks on other members, and frankly don't consider anything I have done as an attack on Maduro Man.......rather a legitimate questioning of a post I took exception to.

[Diesel Grinch]

ashauler I'm sorry if I came off wrong to you. But I think you are reading into MM and the real cuban thing too much. Yes it is a bit of a slap and he did owe you an apology which I think he did give. I just saw things starting to gear up for a big blow-up. Everyone handle themselves well in this so far and I'm just trying make sure it doesn't turn into a meltdown.



Every once in a while I act like a fog don't hold it against me.


DG

[ashauler]

ashauler I'm sorry if I came off wrong to you. But I think you are reading into MM and the real cuban thing too much. Yes it is a bit of a slap and he did owe you an apology which I think he did give. I just saw things starting to gear up for a big blow-up. Everyone handle themselves well in this so far and I'm just trying make sure it doesn't turn into a meltdown.



Every once in a while I act like a fog don't hold it against me.


DG

No apology necessary DG, and I understand your motivation for making the post. I agree that this doesn't need to turn into full-blown meltdown and am not trying to run MM out of here (as if I could anyway).

Perhaps I am a little too butt-hurt over this and more emotionally invested than is warranted.

Funky,
I have no issue with members asking for isom's in their wishlist, none at all. I only object to false or misleading statements being made when asking for them.

[basil]

What? Are ya'll saying we're not going to need all this cool shit I brought like the flamethrower, rack, baseball bats, lead pipes and encyclopedia of verbal assault and abuse?? <sigh> dammit.

[nhcigarfan]

I'll take the encyclopedia.

[stjohnroe]

What? Are ya'll saying we're not going to need all this cool shit I brought like the flamethrower, rack, baseball bats, lead pipes and encyclopedia of verbal assault and abuse?? <sigh> dammit.

Ah man, you forgot the popcorn

[WOXOF]

What? Are ya'll saying we're not going to need all this cool shit I brought like the flamethrower, rack, baseball bats, lead pipes and encyclopedia of verbal assault and abuse?? <sigh> dammit.

I've always wanted a flame thrower and would be willing to trade for it.

I can definitely see why ashauler and Jfellows would be upset about the remarks from MM. When I send a special cigar to a newb (or anyone for that matter), I would like for them to recognize it and at least remember that they have it. That being said, I'm almost positive that the "real ISOM" comment by MM wasn't directed towards any of the people that had sent him the genuine thing. I thought I remembered a post a while back by him stating that all he had smoked were fake ISOMs. (though I could be mistaken) I was one of the first guys on here to become suspicious of MM when he first started posting. After a while I realized he was just an overzealous newb. I think this was an honest mistake on his part.

I think MM should comment on and clear up any misconceptions about his "real ISOM" remarks. A genuine apology or two would go a long ways to maintain his credibility as well.

[Maduro Man]

Ok…well I want to clear the air on this issue. First off I want to make an unconditional apology to Ashauler and Jfellows. I know that both of you went above and beyond to send a new b some REALLY nice cigars. I DID make an honest mistake on what sticks were sent to me and that’s all it was, an honest mistake. As stated by another member here to me, we’ve all done it in one way or another.(make mistakes as to what has been sent to you). I know this is a pretty close group of BOTLs and I in no way want Fellows or Ashauler to think I was trying to take advantage of either one of them or anyone else on the sight. So I am making this apology to both of you in this forum so others can see that I am in fact sorry and do respect the sight and the fellow BOTLs here. Once again I am sorry you got the impression that I was asking for ISOMs under false pretenses…I was not and for that I am truly sorry for offending two very established members who were trying to hook up a new b with two very nice sticks.

I also want everyone else to know that since this thread has started I have received my fair share of Threatening, Intimidating and Demeaning IMs. Some of them were way over the top and uncalled for. For everyone I have dealt with personally on this sight(you know who you are)I have been nothing but upfront, trustworthy and generous. Any future personal interaction with me will continue to go this way. My promise to this sight in the future is to think before I post, put myself in others shoes and think about what my post may say to them or how it may be perceived.

Once again Ashauler and Fellows, I am sorry for offending you.

[Bassfever]

Good job.