Medical Marijuana

[Drake]

I am in no way straight laced and I used to smoke pot all the time when I was younger but I have to disagree with Drake on a couple of points. When you say that you are not hurting anyone else by smoking pot that is a bit short sighted. The money that you spend may initially go into the hands of your friendly neighborhood aquaintance but if you follow thet trail all the way the money ends up funding foreign dealers, growers, er organized criminals. They are involved in all sorts of activities including murder, child slavery, etc. to advance their money making ventures. I no longer smoke pot because it led me to other, more dangerous drugs but if I did decide that I wanted to smoke again I would not; simply because of where the money goes. And as long as it is illegal that is where the drug money will continue to go Just something to consider.

Secondly when you say the reason they busted you is all about the money that is not quite correct. If the government were to legalize pot and tax it they would make far more money than they do off of the fines they currently enforce...

i don't buy pot that's grown in dirt that came from mexico. i buy pot that is grown in water by someone in my city. and perhaps it is not all about the money. but regardless what the reasoning is, it is senseless. if they would legalize it and tax it, then that would reduce the money getting to these murderers you're so worried about.


you not buying a bag of pot won't stop someone from being murdered or free a slave, nor will it reduce the chances of either of these.

we should stop buying gas, so innocent middle easterners will stop being murdered.

[QuietC]

i buy pot that is grown in water by someone in my city..

haha

not to get off topic, but people think they've done a better job on the border control, thats a load of crap

BOSTON -- The case of a man arrested in Massachusetts in connection with a pair of brutal killings in New Brunswick is raising questions about security along Maine's border with Canada.

In April, Gregory Despres hitchhiked to the border crossing at Calais carrying a homemade sword, a hatchet, a knife, brass knuckles and a chain saw stained by what appeared to be blood. Customs officials confiscated the weapons and fingerprinted Despres, but allowed him to enter the United States. The murders weren't discovered until the following day.

Despres was arrested later that month in Massachusetts and is now awaiting extradition.

Bill Anthony of U.S. Customs and Border Protection said Despres, a native of Canada, couldn't be detained at Calais because he's a naturalized U.S. citizen and wasn't wanted on any criminal charges

alright, if a guy like this can get through our borders, theres no way they're even close to stopping any kind of drugs from ciming into our country

[cigarsarge]

The problem with pot is the violence that surrounds it. At levels higher than the casual smoker or the $10-$20 a bag seller that sells to his buds, violence surrounds it. How many people have been assaulted or killed just to get you that blunt you just rolled?

I have been on many drug raids. In almost every one that involves sale of meth, crack, oxycotin, ect. we generally find pot for sale also. That is one hell of a dangerous atmosphere to go to buy a little pot.

On the other hand as a Law Enforcement Officer I encounter many people under various drugs. Alchohol, meth, cocaine users are generally more dangerous. I have had very few violent events with pot smokers.

I generally am not on the lookout for Johnny Toker smoking a blunt at his house. I have much better things to do than hook someone up for that. If you bring it on the street it becomes my business.

I am not here to judge my friends on this board. You gotta do what you gotta do. Just don't be bluntin up those Opus and PAMs.

[hex1848]

The problem with pot is the violence that surrounds it. At levels higher than the casual smoker or the $10-$20 a bag seller that sells to his buds, violence surrounds it. How many people have been assaulted or killed just to get you that blunt you just rolled?

The violence that surrounds the black market could be easily avoided by decriminalizing and commercializing the sale of marijuana. The money saved by emptying thousands of jail beds and the money gained by taxation would be astronomical.

[Drake]

The violence that surrounds the black market could be easily avoided by decriminalizing and commercializing the sale of marijuana. The money saved by emptying thousands of jail beds and the money gained by taxation would be astronomical.

well, the violence will be there no matter what. if drugs were gone, the greedy, easy money seeking, drug dealer types will always be there. and will kill someone for something of value. marijuana doesn't cause that.

[CoventryCat86]

What happened to the original topic of MEDICAL MARIJUANA?

[Drake]

What happened to the original topic of MEDICAL MARIJUANA?

oops. sorry. i think that was my fault.

[ggiese]

The violence that surrounds the black market could be easily avoided by decriminalizing and commercializing the sale of marijuana. The money saved by emptying thousands of jail beds and the money gained by taxation would be astronomical.

Hex - couldn't disagree with you more. If anything, I believe the violence would INCREASE as cartels and syndicates establish themselves in the market. If you looked at the history of prohibition (with alcohol), a lot of violence surrounded that market when it first becamse legal as gangsters staked their territorial claims. And violence still exists today (although you'd never know it...) While it's not publiciized nearly as much, the Chicago mafia is still active and killing people over such things as prostitution, gambling, drugs and of course BOOZE. Hell, they even get touchy over juke boxes (if you don't believe me, open a bar in the Chicago area and buy your own box)!!!

I agree with Sarge - while I rarely get into a violent confrontation with a pothead, I do commonly see pot around other drugs that are seized. Sorry, Jaewing, but marijuana is most definitely a "gateway" drug. I don't know of any heroin addict, crack head, or other heavy drug user that didn't start with marijuana. While most think they can control it, the reality is - many cannot. If you've seen the things that Sarge, BK and myself have seen with individuals who are drug addicted, this discussion wouldn't even be happening... It turns my stomach and makes my job miserable. When little kids ask me what the worst things I've seen, I'd say about 80% is related to drug use.

I say - forget about marijuana and smoke a stogie!!! That's what takes me to another place!

[Drake]

The problem with pot is the violence that surrounds it. At levels higher than the casual smoker or the $10-$20 a bag seller that sells to his buds, violence surrounds it. How many people have been assaulted or killed just to get you that blunt you just rolled?

I have been on many drug raids. In almost every one that involves sale of meth, crack, oxycotin, ect. we generally find pot for sale also. That is one hell of a dangerous atmosphere to go to buy a little pot.

On the other hand as a Law Enforcement Officer I encounter many people under various drugs. Alchohol, meth, cocaine users are generally more dangerous. I have had very few violent events with pot smokers.

I generally am not on the lookout for Johnny Toker smoking a blunt at his house. I have much better things to do than hook someone up for that. If you bring it on the street it becomes my business.

I am not here to judge my friends on this board. You gotta do what you gotta do. Just don't be bluntin up those Opus and PAMs.

yeah, that's what a couple of my cop friends say. that no one gets busted for just smoking pot at their home. which i have never heard of happening.

[Roham]

i don't buy pot that's grown in dirt that came from mexico. i buy pot that is grown in water by someone in my city. and perhaps it is not all about the money. but regardless what the reasoning is, it is senseless. if they would legalize it and tax it, then that would reduce the money getting to these murderers you're so worried about.


you not buying a bag of pot won't stop someone from being murdered or free a slave, nor will it reduce the chances of either of these.

we should stop buying gas, so innocent middle easterners will stop being murdered.

Good post. Agree with every point in it