The Official World Wide Peace Pass of '08 Thread

[Taz]

OK Puts
Cohiba Robusto ISOM $23
Oliva V Torpedo $8
Olivia V Lancero $6
Flor de Cano ISOM $7
Anejo 55 $30
Illusino cg:4 $7
Aurora 100 Anos $18
Total $99
Takes
Bolivar Gold Medal ISOM $18
Zino Platinum Stout $15
Partagas Corona ISOM $11

Romeo y Julieta Lot 96 Series B 10th Anni $8
Cao Anni Cameroon Torpedo $8
PSD4 isom $14
Total $88
Going out in the morning

I just did a quick search at the common sites so I am sure you could find them higher or lower, Except for the Anejo #55 which you can not find and at Auction right now $30 would be a good price. And Like I said I also Tried to put in sticks that are hard to impossible to find. Thought some might enjoy tring them if they have not.
Roham but If you feel I fell short just let me know I was actually trying to give more then I took. If so I already mailed I will resend more, I was going on vaction today and wanted to get them out.
Let me know Don

[Roham]

I just did a quick search at the common sites so I am sure you could find them higher or lower, Except for the Anejo #55 which you can not find and at Auction right now $30 would be a good price. And Like I said I also Tried to put in sticks that are hard to impossible to find. Thought some might enjoy tring them if they have not.
Roham but If you feel I fell short just let me know I was actually trying to give more then I took. If so I already mailed I will resend more, I was going on vaction today and wanted to get them out.
Let me know Don

Looks Ok to me. Hope you have a good vacation!!

[slcraiders]

I just did a quick search at the common sites so I am sure you could find them higher or lower, Except for the Anejo #55 which you can not find and at Auction right now $30 would be a good price. And Like I said I also Tried to put in sticks that are hard to impossible to find. Thought some might enjoy tring them if they have not.
Roham but If you feel I fell short just let me know I was actually trying to give more then I took. If so I already mailed I will resend more, I was going on vaction today and wanted to get them out.
Let me know Don

Don,

Thanks for the repost. Just to be clear, I am not implying that you are trying to pull anything over or short-change the pass. I felt your post was rushed allowing no time for a review/o.k. If Roham is cool, then you are golden.

Please understand that stick value is usually determined by MSRP (box price divided by the number of cigars in the box). The Anejo runs no more that $10 MSRP and is not necessarily hard/impossible to find. I would not spend $30 on one- nor would I put in a $30 cigar to trade for it in a pass. The rest of your prices are a bit off as well. For example, the Cohiba Robusto is a $15 stick and the Aurora would go for about the same and that is for the priciest vitola for that blend. You do not indicate a size in your 'puts' listing.

Again, no hard feelings. I know your intentions are good and that is all that matters in the spirit of a pass. Enjoy your vacation

[BigMacFU]

I'm ready Taz!

[basil]

I dunno ya'll. This is exactly the reason why noobs shouldn't be allowed in passes until they have some experience on the board, are familiar with general rules, and have earned some cred. This guy has cigar prices and pass protocol totally fucked up. Based on his actions in this pass, I would never be in a trade/pass with Taz. Ya'll can be cool with it. I'm not.

To sharpen the point:

Top25 has shitty reviews, but the MSRPs there are fairly reliable. Checking there reveals

There are several Cohiba robustos and none of them MSRPs for $23.
The Olivas are accurate.
His Aurora is over-priced
The 55 is ludicrously over-priced.

I didn't check the rest.

But, mailing them before a green light from Roham was straight up bullshit.

[BigMacFU]

I dunno ya'll. This is exactly the reason why noobs shouldn't be allowed in passes until they have some experience on the board, are familiar with general rules, and have earned some cred. This guy has cigar prices and pass protocol totally fucked up. Based on his actions in this pass, I would never be in a trade/pass with Taz. Ya'll can be cool with it. I'm not.

To sharpen the point:

Top25 has shitty reviews, but the MSRPs there are fairly reliable. Checking there reveals

There are several Cohiba robustos and none of them MSRPs for $23.
The Olivas are accurate.
His Aurora is over-priced
The 55 is ludicrously over-priced.

I didn't check the rest.

But, mailing them before a green light from Roham was straight up bullshit.

I have to agree with Basil on this one. Even if the values ended up being where they should be, without a confirmation, nothing should leave if those are pass rules. If confirmation occurred in some other way, say via phone, fine, we don't all need to see it.

I also understand not wanting to sit on a pass because of vacation, but if it's going to be that close of a call, you just say, skip me and come back at the end, or just skip me altogether.

As a reminder, rarity vs. value doesn't compute except in the extremes. If you're pulling out a RyJ 1994 ISOM which technically has a 10.00 MSRP, then no doubt it is worth more than that since it is impossible to attain such a cigar for 10 bucks. But with the Fuente, Padron, Tat stuff, it just isn't rare enough (with the exception of the uncommon lines of Opus and Hemingway). Value must always be met in the common cases, regardless of rarity.

[basil]

And another word about MSRP - Often times, the MSRP that is published is higher, sometimes much higher, than what the cigar can be had for consistently. So, one can't always use MSRP to price a cigar in a pass; saying that cigar X is worth $12 MSRP when that cigar can be bought for $8 online or in any B&M anytime is dishonest.

[nhcigarfan]

I agree with Basil and BMF, but if Roham OK's it then I guess its fine.