SmokinDVM Ban Poll

**Shelby07** · 10-24-2006, 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by cigar no baka

Agreed. Barry seems to take political things over the top all the time, and his avatar is insulting. I wish he would tone things down and be able to state his political views in a respectful manner. I'm not saying you can't fly off the handle once in a while, we all lose control sometimes, but to do so constantly is over the top.

Um... In case you haven't noticed, Barry has toned it down quite a bit, as have you (which I appreciate.) How long do you want to keep this thing going?

**cigar no baka** · 10-24-2006, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by Shelby07

Um... In case you haven't noticed, Barry has toned it down quite a bit, as have you (which I appreciate.) How long are we going to keep this thing going?

Yes, I have, but the jury is still out on Barry. Comments like his don't create discussion, they create animosity, which leads to hatred. Take a look at the nature of this board since he came on, and tell me if it is a better place where we love to talk about cigars, or has it caused a major hate-fest to start with lots of hatred going back and forth, causing several members who have been on for over a year (Bill, Ken George and myself) to state that his posts are making this board less enjoyable, not more?

**Shelby07** · 10-24-2006, 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by cigar no baka

Yes, I have, but the jury is still out on Barry. Comments like his don't create discussion, they create animosity, which leads to hatred. Take a look at the nature of this board since he came on, and tell me if it is a better place where we love to talk about cigars, or has it caused a major hate-fest to start with lots of hatred going back and forth, causing several members who have been on for over a year (Bill, Ken George and myself) to state that his posts are making this board less enjoyable, not more.

In a CS poll, the projected winner is... SMOKINDVM! With most of the votes in from all precincts, SDVM is in the lead with an astounding 84.2%

I gotta go to work now boys. Play nice!

**cigar no baka** · 10-24-2006, 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by Shelby07

In a CS poll, the projected winner is... SMOKINDVM! With most of the votes in from all precincts, SDVM is in the lead with an astounding 84.2%

I gotta go to work now boys. Play nice!

You didn't answer my question.

**CoventryCat86** · 10-24-2006, 07:47 PM

Originally Posted by cigar no baka

You didn't answer my question.

I noticed the same exact thing.....

**Shelby07** · 10-24-2006, 11:05 PM

Originally Posted by cigar no baka

You didn't answer my question.

I have answered your question over and over. But let me try again. It doesn't bother me. So has the board gotten worse? better? stayed the same? Well now, I have seen this stuff come and go. It's current state is one of agitation. but it will go away. This is apparantly something you want to fight about. I am advocating that everyone just try to remember that you used to like each other for various reasons. That's all. I'm not getting into the fray here. I've stated over and over that I don't think anyone is an asshole. I am pointing out the futility of your (and others') attempt to win an unwinable argument. It doesn't bother me so for me there is nothing to take sides on. Does that answer your question, Bill?

Let me put it in a way that perhaps you might relate to...

It takes at least 2 to fight. Everybody shut the fuck up and see what happens.

bigpoppapuff · 10-24-2006, 11:07 PM

Shut the fuck up and see what happens.

well said,mark...well said!!!

**cigar no baka** · 10-26-2006, 12:07 PM

Originally Posted by Shelby07

I have answered your question over and over. But let me try again. It doesn't bother me. So has the board gotten worse? better? stayed the same? Well now, I have seen this stuff come and go. It's current state is one of agitation. but it will go away. This is apparantly something you want to fight about. I am advocating that everyone just try to remember that you used to like each other for various reasons. That's all. I'm not getting into the fray here. I've stated over and over that I don't think anyone is an asshole. I am pointing out the futility of your (and others') attempt to win an unwinable argument. It doesn't bother me so for me there is nothing to take sides on. Does that answer your question, Bill?

Let me put it in a way that perhaps you might relate to...

It takes at least 2 to fight. Everybody shut the fuck up and see what happens.

My name is not Bill. Are you telling me to shut the fuck up or Bill.

Also, try to find even ONE political discussion I have started here. Double pinkie dare ya.

I don't come here to discuss politics. But when someone posts something about all Repugs being fucktard shitstain motherfucking cocksucking retards, isn't that a teeny weeny BIT over the top? Seem like a bit of a troll, agitator? Suppose you believed strongly in something, let's say for arguments sake you were a Catholic. And some troll came on saying that all shitstain fucktard motherfucking cocksucking retarded pedophiles that Catholics are. I'd be surpised if you just sat back and said nothing.

I'm not saying Barry is a troll, but his political posts are over the top and cause agitation, drawing people who he is insulting into the fray, which I readily jump into. But I don't start this shit, like I said, find even one thread I've started on politics here.

Peace out

**Shelby07** · 10-26-2006, 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by cigar no baka

My name is not Bill. Are you telling me to shut the fuck up or Bill.

Also, try to find even ONE political discussion I have started here. Double pinkie dare ya.

I don't come here to discuss politics. But when someone posts something about all Repugs being fucktard shitstain motherfucking cocksucking retards, isn't that a teeny weeny BIT over the top? Seem like a bit of a troll, agitator? Suppose you believed strongly in something, let's say for arguments sake you were a Catholic. And some troll came on saying that all shitstain fucktard motherfucking cocksucking retarded pedophiles that Catholics are. I'd be surpised if you just sat back and said nothing.

I'm not saying Barry is a troll, but his political posts are over the top and cause agitation, drawing people who he is insulting into the fray, which I readily jump into. But I don't start this shit, like I said, find even one thread I've started on politics here.

Peace out

I was talking to Bill. Sorry, I hit the reply button on the wrong post. CNB - I may have been critical of you at one time but no more. You have been reasonable. Sorry if you thought the post was directed at you.

**CoventryCat86** · 10-26-2006, 03:29 PM

Originally Posted by cigar no baka

My name is not Bill. Are you telling me to shut the fuck up or Bill.

Also, try to find even ONE political discussion I have started here. Double pinkie dare ya.

I don't come here to discuss politics. But when someone posts something about all Repugs being fucktard shitstain motherfucking cocksucking retards, isn't that a teeny weeny BIT over the top? Seem like a bit of a troll, agitator? Suppose you believed strongly in something, let's say for arguments sake you were a Catholic. And some troll came on saying that all shitstain fucktard motherfucking cocksucking retarded pedophiles that Catholics are. I'd be surpised if you just sat back and said nothing.

I'm not saying Barry is a troll, but his political posts are over the top and cause agitation, drawing people who he is insulting into the fray, which I readily jump into. But I don't start this shit, like I said, find even one thread I've started on politics here.

Peace out

He said "everybody shut the fuck up" so he at least meant both of us. I agree with you CNB, I'll stop when I'm ready to stop, not because loudpipe and shelly want me to.

**CoventryCat86** · 10-24-2006, 08:30 PM

Originally Posted by Shelby07

Um... In case you haven't noticed, Barry has toned it down quite a bit, as have you (which I appreciate.) How long do you want to keep this thing going?

If you review Barry's posts in his exchanges with me over the past few days you will find that your statement is not true.

bigpoppapuff · 10-24-2006, 08:38 PM

bill.....fyi.......YAWN...aren't your cyber muscles all tired out from your power play that didn't work??.....

....the argument is over...let it go...you have repubs that need your help...go get 'em elected.....i hope they all win...really....

**CoventryCat86** · 10-24-2006, 08:50 PM

Originally Posted by bigpoppapuff

bill.....fyi.......YAWN...aren't your cyber muscles all tired out from your power play that didn't work??.....

....the argument is over...let it go...you have repubs that need your help...go get 'em elected.....i hope they all win...really....

Why do you have to be such an asshole? What "power play" Sid? Why start in with the smart-assed crap and insults? I really don't understand why you act this way.....

**ggiese** · 10-24-2006, 09:59 PM

Originally Posted by bigpoppapuff

bill.....fyi.......YAWN...aren't your cyber muscles all tired out from your power play that didn't work??.....

....the argument is over...let it go...you have repubs that need your help...go get 'em elected.....i hope they all win...really....

Ya won, Sid - Ya won!!!

There - ya feel all better there big guy???

Now - would you get to work on that ban poll for me that you promised...

C'mon, Sid - ya know you want to do it - go get 'em tiger...

**Shelby07** · 10-24-2006, 11:07 PM

Originally Posted by CoventryCat86

If you review Barry's posts in his exchanges with me over the past few days you will find that your statement is not true.

When you throw gasoline on a file it doesn't go out.

**CoventryCat86** · 10-24-2006, 11:11 PM

Originally Posted by Shelby07

When you throw gasoline on a file it doesn't go out.

On a "file"

Shelby, you stated something that was not true and I corrected you.

**Shelby07** · 10-24-2006, 11:28 PM

Originally Posted by CoventryCat86

On a "file"

Shelby, you stated something that was not true and I corrected you.

Bill, When I'm wrong, I'm wrong, and I freely admit it. Ya got me! - I'm an old programmer. The muscle memory types out "file" very easily.

Let me try again

"When you throw gasoline on a fire it doesn't go out."

So, just in case you didn't get it, quit trying to put the fire out with gasoline while you're complaining that it's flairing up.

As for my stating something that was not true... whose truth are we talking about here? Yours or mine. They are opinions. Last I heard, you can't "correct" an opinion with another opinion.

**CoventryCat86** · 10-24-2006, 11:50 PM

Originally Posted by Shelby07

Bill, When I'm wrong, I'm wrong, and I freely admit it. Ya got me! - I'm an old programmer. The muscle memory types out "file" very easily.

Let me try again

"When you throw gasoline on a fire it doesn't go out."

So, just in case you didn't get it, quit trying to put the fire out with gasoline while you're complaining that it's flairing up.

As for my stating something that was not true... whose truth are we talking about here? Yours or mine. They are opinions. Last I heard, you can't "correct" an opinion with another opinion.

Shelby, where am I "complaining that it's flairing (sic) up?" Please don't accuse me of something I did not say. What is it with you? BTW, the "(sic)" means you spelled "flaring" wrong.

You stated that Barry has "toned" it down and that is clearly not true if you had looked at his exchanges with me over the past couple of days. If you want to split hairs on the differences between opinion and fact go right ahead but I can guarantee you that a disinterested third party would not draw the same conclusion you did. Did you really read all of Barry's posts over the past couple of days in his exchanges with me? My guess is that you didn't and just shot from the hip and wrongfully concluded that he had "toned it down" when in fact the truth is just the opposite, he was very nasty. Do you consider his action of having an avatar with a gun to a kitten's head and the words "die" to be "toning it down?" He started with that BS only three days ago. That's a fact Shelby, not an opinion.

**chefchris** · 10-25-2006, 12:01 AM

so what high school does everybody go to?

**Shelby07** · 10-25-2006, 12:31 AM

Originally Posted by CoventryCat86

Shelby, where am I "complaining that it's flairing (sic) up?" Please don't accuse me of something I did not say. What is it with you? BTW, the "(sic)" means you spelled "flaring" wrong.

You stated that Barry has "toned" it down and that is clearly not true if you had looked at his exchanges with me over the past couple of days. If you want to split hairs on the differences between opinion and fact...

Split hairs between opinion and fact? Heavens, let's not discuss that! Let's just intermingle them. If we're gonna split hairs, let's do it on something important like spelling and grammatical errors. We certainly wouldn't want to try to differentiate between my OPINIONS and your FACTS!

...go right ahead but I can guarantee you that a disinterested third party would not draw the same conclusion you did. Did you really read all of Barry's posts over the past couple of days in his exchanges with me? My guess is that you didn't and just shot from the hip and wrongfully concluded that he had "toned it down" when in fact the truth is just the opposite, he was very nasty. Do you consider his action of having an avatar with a gun to a kitten's head and the words "die" to be "toning it down?" He started with that BS only three days ago. That's a fact Shelby, not an opinion.

Again, Bill, these are your facts. I see it a bit differently - In my OPINION, Barry had toned things down quite a bit, and in my OPINION he has come at you in the past few days, and in my OPINION he has done so because, in my OPINION, you refuse to let things die, and in my OPINION you don't want to let things die, and in my OPINION you are as much a part of the problem as anybody else and in my OPINION if you pipe down a little, so would he, but in my OPINION we won't know for a while, because in my OPINION you ain't gonna pipe down.

Does that make you factual and me opinionated?

FACT! between the time I left for work this morning you have posted 4 TIMES AS MUCH AS BARRY. In fact, Barry's part in this thread has become quite minimal. Now you seem intent on correcting MY opinions with YOUR "facts."

OPINION: People are reading this thread for amusement, not education. You aren't winning anybody over.

Oh, and for your amusement, find the misspeeled word!