Duplicate Accounts

[hex1848]

I made a mistake and jumped the gun by posting this thread. The forum is pretty divided right now and accusations were being made that people had duplicate accounts. Now that being said, there is evidence pointing towards a duplicate accounts, however vBulletin's search interface has one problem when looking for these kinds of things - dates.

One account in particular was setup a long time ago (it’s user id is 275, we are now at 2781) and has been in use until very recently. vBulletin's duplicate account search showed that one user in particular had used it a lot - when I saw that I posted in this thread. Now after speaking with the member in question and looking a little bit deeper into the logs, he actually stopped using the account well over a year ago. The account has been used by several other individuals. I have gone ahead and banned this account - Moheganson. I didn’t out right delete it so I can go back and look at logs if needed.

The second account in question was brought to my attention by another senior member. I didn't have the evidence I said I had - in fact I told the member who let me know about this account that the IP's didn't match at all. It's all that difficult to spoof IP addresses, but for someone to go through that trouble for so long just seems like too much BS. I have spoken to the individual in question and he has assured me that he is in no way, shape or form associated with the other account. I've been watching the 2 accounts sign in from different locations at the same time, which being that they are in different states is enough for me to believe them.

I know I haven’t been on top of this at all the last couple of weeks. If you knew half of the crap that’s on my plate right now you might understand. I apologize for letting this drag on for as long as it has.

[chefchris]

[CoventryCat86]

I made a mistake and jumped the gun by posting this thread. The forum is pretty divided right now and accusations were being made that people had duplicate accounts. Now that being said, there is evidence pointing towards a duplicate accounts, however vBulletin's search interface has one problem when looking for these kinds of things - dates.

One account in particular was setup a long time ago (it’s user id is 275, we are now at 2781) and has been in use until very recently. vBulletin's duplicate account search showed that one user in particular had used it a lot - when I saw that I posted in this thread. Now after speaking with the member in question and looking a little bit deeper into the logs, he actually stopped using the account well over a year ago. The account has been used by several other individuals. I have gone ahead and banned this account - Moheganson. I didn’t out right delete it so I can go back and look at logs if needed.

The second account in question was brought to my attention by another senior member. I didn't have the evidence I said I had - in fact I told the member who let me know about this account that the IP's didn't match at all. It's all that difficult to spoof IP addresses, but for someone to go through that trouble for so long just seems like too much BS. I have spoken to the individual in question and he has assured me that he is in no way, shape or form associated with the other account. I've been watching the 2 accounts sign in from different locations at the same time, which being that they are in different states is enough for me to believe them.

I know I haven’t been on top of this at all the last couple of weeks. If you knew half of the crap that’s on my plate right now you might understand. I apologize for letting this drag on for as long as it has.

I'd like to know who that was because obvioulsy whoever that was is nothing but a lying trouble maker who made a completely groundless accusation and unfortunately you believed him and I am at a total loss as to why you'd do that.

C'mon, out the bastid, we don't need that type of lying behind the scenes going on here, do we? After all, this person is obviously an untrustworthy liar, right? Brings the whole integrity of the board down, doesn't it?

[hex1848]

I'd like to know who that was because obvioulsy whoever that was is nothing but a lying trouble maker who made a completely groundless accusation and unfortunately you believed him and I am at a total loss as to why you'd do that.

C'mon, out the bastid, we don't need that type of lying behind the scenes going on here, do we? After all, this person is obviously an untrustworthy liar, right? Brings the whole integrity of the board down, doesn't it?

It wasn't actually the first time I heard the rumor. Outing the person who told me this will just keep this whole mess going longer then it needs too. As far as im concerned this is over.

[CoventryCat86]

It wasn't actually the first time I heard the rumor. Outing the person who told me this will just keep this whole mess going longer then it needs too. As far as im concerned this is over.

Ya know, we all hear "rumors" just about every day in our lives regarding all kinds of things and I don't know about you but I discount most of them as just plain gossip from insecure liars/troublemakers. If I can confirm through another avenue that the "rumor" has merit, then fine but believing something just because one person "said so" is completely irresponsible.

At least I can say I have NEVER contacted you privately with a cowardly, chickenshit PM with any unsubstantiated "rumors" that slander other members here.

I think those people should "man up" and apoligize PUBLICLY to you and this entire board for spreading unsubstantiated "rumors" when they obviously had no idea what they were talking about.

[Shelby07]

One account in particular was setup a long time ago (it’s user id is 275, we are now at 2781) and has been in use until very recently. vBulletin's duplicate account search showed that one user in particular had used it a lot - when I saw that I posted in this thread. Now after speaking with the member in question and looking a little bit deeper into the logs, he actually stopped using the account well over a year ago. The account has been used by several other individuals. I have gone ahead and banned this account - Moheganson. I didn’t out right delete it so I can go back and look at logs if needed.

Hex,

I'm really trying to understand what you are saying here. It seems that this account was set up long ago by someone. Since it was set up the original poster claims to have stopped using it, but it has since been used by "several other individuals?" I'm now wondering who the "several other individuals" were, Was this a free for all account? Why did the original poster give out the access password to the account in the first place and why was nothing ever said if not to the community, then at least to you, since posts were made using this account for the most part during *debates* up until very recently?

I have all but left this board because of recent shenanigans. In doing so I am breaking contact with lots of people here that I respect and apparently still respect me. If this was truly done in innocence I think I, as well as the others in question, deserve a bit more than the vague explanation provided.

[CoventryCat86]

Hex,

I'm really trying to understand what you are saying here. It seems that this account was set up long ago by someone. Since it was set up the original poster claims to have stopped using it, but it has since been used by "several other individuals?" I'm now wondering who the "several other individuals" were, Was this a free for all account? Why did the original poster give out the access password to the account in the first place and why was nothing ever said if not to the community, then at least to you, since posts were made using this account for the most part during *debates* up until very recently?

I have all but left this board because of recent shenanigans. In doing so I am breaking contact with lots of people here that I respect and apparently still respect me. If this was truly done in innocence I think I, as well as the others in question, deserve a bit more than the vague explanation provided.

You'll never guess what I'm going to say next:



































I thought you were leaving?

[Hugh Jorgan]

Hex,

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[ggiese]

Hex,

I'm really trying to understand what you are saying here. It seems that this account was set up long ago by someone. Since it was set up the original poster claims to have stopped using it, but it has since been used by "several other individuals?" I'm now wondering who the "several other individuals" were, Was this a free for all account? Why did the original poster give out the access password to the account in the first place and why was nothing ever said if not to the community, then at least to you, since posts were made using this account for the most part during *debates* up until very recently?

I have all but left this board because of recent shenanigans. In doing so I am breaking contact with lots of people here that I respect and apparently still respect me. If this was truly done in innocence I think I, as well as the others in question, deserve a bit more than the vague explanation provided.

Clearly, shelby - this "account" Hex refers to was used WAY before you were even posting on this board. What is your purpose for wanting Hex to "out" those that have used it? Do you think it has some kind of sinister purpose???

Maybe that account was something that was fun - and provided amusement to the members at the time it was used.

That was a different time, in a different place. You lack any context for the argument, so it really is best for everyone if you just walk away from this. You clearly do not know what you're saying - and it serves no useful purpose to anyone on this board to try and explain it to you... Would ya quit trying to make something out of nothing??? Really - seriously - as much as you feel you're chasing out the bad guys with this quest of yours - there's really nothing there but a couple of guys in white face with clown noses...

And you've been talking about leaving from about your third post. Again - quit being such a thin skinned baby. Either grow a set and stick around - or get out. You're whining and moaning about what you THINK is good for this community serves no purpose other than personal satisfaction. If it's all about you - then you really truly need to move on. This is a COMMUNITY - not a SHELBITY

On another note, though (and in a similar vein) -

I personally think the person who went behind the scenes to create a situation for Hex and this board where an obvious rift has developed ought have the cajones to come out publically apologize for their mistake. Somehow, though - I believe that person will choose to remain behind the curtain, looking for the next way to stir crap up on the board with other silly nonsense, and is not man enough to admit they are wrong. That kind of behavior should NEVER be tolerated. If you're bold enough to publically whine and complain about the way Bill is - certainly you should be self reflective of what you're doing to the board with privately whining to Hex about what you think is true, when it's not...

Hex - IN ALL FAIRNESS TO EVERY MEMBER OF THIS BOARD - the person who went to admin whining about someone having a duplicate account (when there was no clear evidence there was - only a supposition) and stirring up this incredible brouhah - should be outed.

[SmokinDVM]

Hex,

I'm really trying to understand what you are saying here. It seems that this account was set up long ago by someone. Since it was set up the original poster claims to have stopped using it, but it has since been used by "several other individuals?" I'm now wondering who the "several other individuals" were, Was this a free for all account? Why did the original poster give out the access password to the account in the first place and why was nothing ever said if not to the community, then at least to you, since posts were made using this account for the most part during *debates* up until very recently?

I have all but left this board because of recent shenanigans. In doing so I am breaking contact with lots of people here that I respect and apparently still respect me. If this was truly done in innocence I think I, as well as the others in question, deserve a bit more than the vague explanation provided.

It was also used to vote in a few ban polls.

What hex is saying here is there are multiple scumbags using the same account. This would prove premeditated scumbaggery, not an innocent act as was the weak excuse offered.

All who used the moheganson account should be outed, so the entire community can see who they need to watch closely. I doubt it will happen, mostly because it's likely a group of "respected" members that hex feels the need to protect. Gee, I wonder who that group includes?

[CoventryCat86]

It was also used to vote in a few ban polls.

What hex is saying here is there are multiple scumbags using the same account. This would prove premeditated scumbaggery, not an innocent act as was the weak excuse offered.

All who used the moheganson account should be outed, so the entire community can see who they need to watch closely. I doubt it will happen, mostly because it's likely a group of "respected" members that hex feels the need to protect. Gee, I wonder who that group includes?

No, there are only two scumbags left on this site, you and shelby. No one who is still a member here used the "Moheganson" account after the duplicate account policy was put in place so there is no one to "out" you lying sack of shit.

And here you go again, stiring shit, throwing lies out there and not manning up yourself because we all know that you and shelby were the ones who whined to hex about "duplicate accounts" when you had no idea what you were talking about as usual.

You really ought to just slither away barry before you get banned again. That's not a threat, just a suggestion because at the rate you're going, your days here are numbered.

[ggiese]

No, there are only two scumbags left on this site, you and shelby. No one who is still a member here used the "Moheganson" account after the duplicate account policy was put in place so there is no one to "out" you lying sack of shit.

And here you go again, stiring shit, throwing lies out there and not manning up yourself because we all know that you and shelby were the ones who whined to hex about "duplicate accounts" when you had no idea what you were talking about as usual.

You really ought to just slither away barry before you get banned again. That's not a threat, just a suggestion because at the rate you're going, your days here are numbered.

How can someone lie if they really don't know the truth?

[SmokinDVM]

No, there are only two scumbags left on this site, you and shelby. No one who is still a member here used the "Moheganson" account after the duplicate account policy was put in place so there is no one to "out" you lying sack of shit.

And you know this how? Could you be one of the users of the duplicate account? Seems a bit suspicious.

And here you go again, stiring shit, throwing lies out there and not manning up yourself because we all know that you and shelby were the ones who whined to hex about "duplicate accounts" when you had no idea what you were talking about as usual.

And now you prove, again, how amazingly stupid you really are.

You really ought to just slither away barry before you get banned again. That's not a threat, just a suggestion because at the rate you're going, your days here are numbered.

I wonder why you're getting all rabid over this? Could you be protesting out of guilt? Now before you start foaming at the mouth again, just answer the simple questions asked in this post. No bullshit fake whining and crying. No screaming like a girl how I'm going to get banned soon. Just answer the questions for everyone here.

[ggiese]

Well... This situation has been satisfactorily explained to everyone that needs to know.

Hex - go ahead and Lock 'er up!!!

[CoventryCat86]

And you know this how? Could you be one of the users of the duplicate account? Seems a bit suspicious.

And now you prove, again, how amazingly stupid you really are.

I wonder why you're getting all rabid over this? Could you be protesting out of guilt? Now before you start foaming at the mouth again, just answer the simple questions asked in this post. No bullshit fake whining and crying. No screaming like a girl how I'm going to get banned soon. Just answer the questions for everyone here.

No I am not barry. If I was, I would have been banned according to the rules you stupid bastard.

Once again, I'm not "threatening" or "screaming" about you being banned, I'm simply warning you that if you keep behaving the way you are, it's almost a certainty that you will be banned. Didn't you learn your lesson from Herfer's Paradise? In your last act of stupidity over there, you start a thread called "Fanatics" and of course you can't resist being the total asshole that you are and you wind up getting perma-banned because of it.

Kind of ironic, isn't it.

The same thing will happen to you here too if you don't keep your worthless mouth shut so don't let me stop you.