Introduction

[basil]

I was almost impressed with your diatribe until I realized once again that you and Basil love to talk out of your ass and think you know more than anyone. You guys crack me up as I read your commentaries of things you have absolutely no knowledge whatsoever but if it makes you feel superior then by all means keep it up. By the way, I don't troll and I'm sure you will make a big stink again and impress yourself with another monologue,,(yawn).

Every once in a while I check in to see if you grown up yet and as such I see you still hang on to this like a parasite. You love this and I'm happy to oblige you so that you can puff out that big oratorical chest of yours and spout all kinds of stuff. Come on you big stud, impress all of us again with your grandstanding speeches. I know secretly that you like me to come on here cuz it makes you feel all superior and that's what I'm here for is to help make your day,,,or not. Do ya like it so far? And if not then I suggest you do what Basil does,,,suck it til ya do.

lmfao! fuck. A troll that doesn't recognize itself even in a mirror. "I don't troll . . . " wow. ok. If we stop calling you a pathetic fuck will you stop coming back?

[ggiese]

Wednesday, September 24, 2008 4:54:08 PM

Dear ggiese,

Cigary has just tried to send you a private message. However, your private messages box on Cigar community and forum has reached the specified quota.

All the best,
Cigar community and forum

Oh look! Cigary tried to PM me and could not get the message through. He is no doubt kicking the crap out of his computer right now out of frustration.

Shucks - I really wanted to see a good case of diarrhea of the mouth with no substance. Oh, well - I guess I can instead torture myself by watching a Spongebob Squarepants cartoon marathon to get my fix of absolute useless and insane nonsense.

[ashauler]

lmfao! fuck. A troll that doesn't recognize itself even in a mirror. "I don't troll . . . " wow. ok. If we stop calling you a pathetic fuck will you stop coming back?

I hope he posts at least once a month.......my vocabulary is increasing with each post that ggiese makes in response. I love to learn.

[basil]

I hope he posts at least once a month.......my vocabulary is increasing with each post that ggiese makes in response. I love to learn.

No kiddin'. I'm feelin' smarter too.

I think fucktardary will keep coming back for the abuse - it makes him feel noticed. That's one of the hallmarks of a troll though - a huge appetite for shit sandwiches.

[ggiese]

Before I can focus on the ignorance that abounds in Cigary's threats, I must qualify Cigary's character, his sources, and even his personal frame of mind towards me. I guess I should start by saying that Cigary has already begun destroying our moral fiber. I wish I were joking but I'm not. What's more, I don't believe that cultural tradition has never contributed a single thing to the advancement of knowledge or understanding. So when he says that that's what I believe, I see how little he understands my position. I claim that there may be nothing we can do to prevent him from making good on his word to enthrone falsehood in the very center of human thought. When we compare this disturbing conclusion to the comforting picture purveyed by his shills, we experience psychological stress or "cognitive dissonance". Our only recourse is to lend support to the thesis that to deny this is to deny science, let alone the evidence of one's own powers of observation.

If I said that Cigary is a man of peace, I'd be a liar. But I'd be being totally honest if I said that if I thought that his magic-bullet explanations had even a snowball's chance in Hell of doing anything good for anyone, then I wouldn't be so critical. As they stand, however, I can conclude only that if Cigary can't cite the basis for his claim that it's inappropriate to teach children right from wrong then he should just shut up about it. Cigary has never satisfactorily proved his assertion that his bloodthirsty band is a benign and charitable agency. He has merely justified that assertion with the phrase, "Because I said so." I would not have thought it possible that juxtaposed to this is the idea that he uses a litany of euphemisms, buzz words, and doublespeak to help him lower our standard of living, but it's absolutely true. To those flighty tossers who think that Cigary is a model citizen, know this: Cigary has repeatedly threatened to force onto us the degradation and ignominy that he is known to revel in. Maybe that's just for maximum scaremongering effect. Or maybe it's because Cigary's screeds are destructive. They're morally destructive, socially destructive -- even intellectually destructive. And, as if that weren't enough, Cigary tends to forget what matters most. It follows from this that no one has a higher opinion of him than I, and I think he's a crude practitioner of moral relativism.

Cigary says that all it takes to solve our social woes are shotgun marriages, heavy-handed divorce laws, and a return to some mythical 1950s Shangri-la. The inference is that those who disagree with Cigary should be cast into the outer darkness, should be shunned, should starve. I'm happy to report that I can't follow that logic. Sure, the things he does are wrong, scary, closed-minded, pesky -- you name it. But if I recall correctly, according to Cigary, some people deserve to feel safe while others do not. He might as well be reading tea leaves or tossing chicken bones on the floor for divination about what's true and what isn't. Maybe then Cigary would realize that it's definitely a tragedy that his goal in life is apparently to control, manipulate, and harm other people. Here, I use the word "tragedy" as the philosopher Whitehead used it. Whitehead stated that "the essence of dramatic tragedy is not unhappiness. It resides in the solemnity of the remorseless working of things," which I interpret as saying that Cigary has written volumes about how he has been robbed of all he does not possess. Don't believe a word of it, though. The truth is that by allowing him to twist the truth we are selling our souls for dross. Instead, we should be striving to prevent his obnoxious remonstrations from spreading like a malignant tumor. Because Cigary is so caught up in trying to alter, rewrite, or ignore past events to make them consistent with his current "reality", I'd like to conclude this post by quoting to him the last line of R. M. Rilke's poem, "Archaic Torso of Apollo": "You must change your life."