War after war, whether is new one? HISTORY REPEATS

**Cohibanut** · 08-01-2005, 04:29 AM

I've only got one question for you:

What was the official basis (or reason stated) upon which the entire war was started?

(Clue: Where are they?)

**the ox** · 08-01-2005, 05:33 AM

Sure Im gonna admit no WOMD have been found yet. But this had to be done and should have been done during the Clinton years to save all those people from tyranny. No one else would. This was and is a war for one thing....Freedom...Freedom against oppression and terroristic rule. WOMD may have been a excuse but the main bad guy is gone,millions are saved. Now then I do believe it is time however to bring the troops home and let the new democracy pick up the pieces and begin life anew.

**Cohibanut** · 08-01-2005, 06:13 AM

I agree with you that SH was a dictator and yes I agree that the people of Irac are better off without him.

What I do not buy is the way this war was sold to us.

First of all it was sold on the basis that SH did have some WMD and that they were a direct threat to the US. Wrong.

Secondly it was sold on the basis that the world as a whole would be safer without SH. Wrong. Terrorists are now stronger than ever due to the bad publicity this war has triggered.

I have always maintained and probably always will, that this war should have been fought under the flag of the UN. NOT by the US, UK and the other couple of countries who decided to join in.

I would have backed it under the UN as a consensus agreed by most countries in the world. The major problem was that the case for WMD was never made clear and unequivocal.

PS: Damn! You're up early! I'ts 12.05 here in London but I see you wrote at 5.33 am!!! You must love cigars so much that you log on in the middle of the night!

Can't blame you though. This is a great site.

**the ox** · 08-01-2005, 06:33 AM

I work from 10pm to 6am so when I have a weekend off I usually stay up all night just like at work and sleep during the day.

**Cohibanut** · 08-01-2005, 06:38 AM

Well sir, it's a pleasure to have a civil debate with someone who prefers sharing ideas and opinions as opposed to engaging in antagonisic banter!

**Shagaroo** · 08-01-2005, 08:29 AM

Originally Posted by Cohibanut

What was the official basis (or reason stated) upon which the entire war was started?

(Clue: Where are they?)

pssst... There was more than one reason. But just for the fun of it, even the democrats, for years and years, told us all Sadman had WMDs. Of course it was usually right after Billary had just blown up a milk factory to get attention away from whichever piece of ass he just got caught with. Why is it that when Bush finally did something about the possible WMDs, and the many other reasons, people get their underroos in a bunch and try to pretend like Bush just came outa nowhere and just made this up on the spot?

Seems to me about 15 years worth of dems AND repubs should take the blame for being wrong about the WMDs.

Oleg281 · 08-01-2005, 10:02 AM

Emancipating movement of provinces against England is connected with colonial
form of board in Mother country.
The English democracy which arisen in 13 century as the form of colonial board
served interests of barons and peers, in modern England - to the same noblemen.
Provinces are practically as dominions and protectorates. Struggle of English
provinces is conducted for free participation in government against
limited democracy.
Development of English democratic colonization threatens also to safety
of the world. The state with the out-of-date form of board where the lie can
become the reason of war should not have the nuclear weapon.

**Cohibanut** · 08-01-2005, 10:07 AM

Oh God. Not you again. Forget my comment about good manners and antagonism.

**labmonkey** · 08-01-2005, 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by Oleg281

Emancipating movement of provinces against England is connected with colonial
form of board in Mother country.
The English democracy which arisen in 13 century as the form of colonial board
served interests of barons and peers, in modern England - to the same noblemen.
Provinces are practically as dominions and protectorates. Struggle of English
provinces is conducted for free participation in government against
limited democracy.
Development of English democratic colonization threatens also to safety
of the world. The state with the out-of-date form of board where the lie can
become the reason of war should not have the nuclear weapon.

STFU!!!!!!

Hex, please get rid of this guy.....not because of his political views, or his obvious problems with the english language, or his questionable resources...

ban him because his posts are useless, never once has he engaged in ANY cigar thread, and he does not read any posts directed at him. This is essentially SPAM in my opinion, and should be treated as such....he has no urge to DISCUSS his political views, he only wishes to drop whatever propaganda he chooses for the day and leave to whatever other forums he does the same thing to.

I'll start a Poll on this if I have to!!!

reaganyouth84 · 08-01-2005, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by Oleg281

Emancipating movement of provinces against England is connected with colonial
form of board in Mother country.
The English democracy which arisen in 13 century as the form of colonial board
served interests of barons and peers, in modern England - to the same noblemen.
Provinces are practically as dominions and protectorates. Struggle of English
provinces is conducted for free participation in government against
limited democracy.
Development of English democratic colonization threatens also to safety
of the world. The state with the out-of-date form of board where the lie can
become the reason of war should not have the nuclear weapon.

Hey, Oleg do this
-Mike

Oleg281 · 08-03-2005, 11:24 AM

What form of partition of the world constant membership in Secutiry council of the United
nations has? Constant membership should be replaced to elective.
How the Secutiry council of the United Nations can affect an aggressive policy of
monarchic authority of England possessing the nuclear weapon?
England as discredited country by colonial policy
and by occupation of Iraq should be excluded from Secutiry council of the United Nations and to become state without weapon.

After attack to London, the policy of democratic colonization
in Iraq should have weaken, but it has not occured.
As politician Tony Blair does not consider that bears the personal responsibility for occupation of Iraq because idea of colonialism is inspired by the queen Elizabeth II?

**Roham** · 08-04-2005, 03:43 AM

I had an awsome Tom And Jerry Ice Cream Bar today!! It was Cherry!!!

I scream for ice cream

**Cohibanut** · 08-04-2005, 05:23 AM

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**Krautle87** · 08-24-2005, 10:11 AM

Originally Posted by Oleg281

As politician Tony Blair does not consider that bears the personal responsibility for occupation of Iraq because idea of colonialism is inspired by the queen Elizabeth II?

You're thinking of Liz the first, not 2.