I feel so old and SO naive

[heftysmokes]

When he said they were "super expensive" that's "imagined" because it is.

--I agree.

Just admit it, you're choice to not own a car is pretty much an "environmental" statement (which is fine) and not really driven by the imagined "costs" you described.

--This is the statement I was refuting. All I was saying is the costs of owning a car are not imagined and they're huge compared to our resident dirty hippie riding his bike everywhere . I wasn't saying a car is cheap compared to a mortgage payment or property taxes or heating oil. I was saying a bike is cheap compared to a car.