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    Iced T Guest

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    Last time I checked, there were more people that wanted children than people with unwanted children. There's no solid reason that a woman should have an abortion besides medical reasons. Someone who is past the "personal responsibility" phase (which I agree with) should carry out the pregnancy and either keep the child, or if not able to financially, give up for adoption. I hate the "back-alley abortion" argument because even where abortion is legal, there are incidences of people killing unborn children. This argument says that "they're going to do it whether we like it or not, so we have to make it legal and safe." That's convenient. The death-penalty/abortion comparison isn't even applicable because they are fundamentally different acts. Abortion is the destruction of an unwanted, innocent child at the decision of a mother or father. The death penalty is an action of law taking the life of a convicted murderer, in a society where as an adult, and through trial, it has to be proven that they knew what they did was wrong. "Prohibitions never work." Of course you can never completely eliminate something like alcohol or drug sales/use, but as the definition of a prohibition states, something that "prohibits a certain act or procedure," you are not trying to eliminate something, but legally disapprove or disallow it. (the elimination of something prohibited could be a consequence). As it has been proven by Poland in the years since the fall of the iron curtain (thanks RR), When abortion is criminalized, the demand drastically drops, not increases.
    Quote Originally Posted by Amanda
    Whatever socioeconomic background these women come from, they'd be far more likely to be substance abusers during their pregnancy, and thus give birth to children with medical and intellectual deficiencies. Alcoholic and drug-addicted mothers that would have otherwise had abortions will bring about a population boom of needy children and will require a huge surge in public spending to finance a lifetime of special education and extensive health care treatment.
    One word. Eugenics. This country does not kill children when it is discovered that they are disabled.
    Quote Originally Posted by Amanda
    "pro-life" ends when the umbilical cord is cut, but I sense many of the penny-pinching, tax-hating ideologues on the front lines of the abortion war believe their commitment ends once the child passes through mama's loins.
    I'm sure many people that dislike high taxes (as I) would not be classified as "penny-pinchers." I would also dare to say that many pro-lifers would also not approve of the murder of innocent children outside of "mama's loins." Like I said before, I'm sure that many pro-lifers would be happy to contribute to funds/programs that aided abortion alternatives. As I believe they already do! Something that you didn't mention however is that many pro-abortion advocates, and even some pro-lifers would say that the government has no business in their bodies. I'd have to disagree. When what you do to your body affects a seperate life inside you, some would call that murder. (I wouldn't, but I'm close). Point is, that the government can criminalize something that furthers the destruction of Americans and the American family, like murder, drugs, or abortion.
    Last edited by Iced T; 07-18-2005 at 10:32 PM.

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