H. Upmann disappointing

**Kenyth** · 08-03-2005, 01:41 PM

I had a buddy pass to me an H. Upmann tubo lonsdale. The label said nothing but 1844. I tried it yesterday with high expectations and I was sorely disappointed. Nothing special at all. The first thing I noticed was that the cigar was a little light for it's size, and seemed rolled a little loose. I thought maybe being a tubo, it was a bit dry? It didn't feel dry though. The cigar had a good feel to it and the wrapper didn't flake. At any rate, this cigar was no better than any other medium bodied Nicaraguan economy smoke I've had (Don Kiki Red Label comes to mind). Not terrible by any means, but nothing special either. I had thought H. Upmann to be a premium brand, and a tubo to be a better quality smoke.

**cigarsarge** · 08-03-2005, 01:51 PM

I don't care for em either.

**CoventryCat86** · 08-03-2005, 02:08 PM

Yep, they're pretty bad

Sorry you had to suffer through it

**alexgtp** · 08-03-2005, 02:10 PM

i agree i have been very disapponted with the H.upmann line of smokes.

But on the cuban side of things.. they are my favorite go to smoke's!
strating with the magnum 46 and the conni #1

**Kenyth** · 08-03-2005, 02:13 PM

And imagine, I was saving it for a good occasion!

When something has a big name and is supposed to be good, and you don't find it good, you wonder if something's wrong with you.

Thanks! You've laid my fears to rest! Now, on to better smokes!

**CoventryCat86** · 08-03-2005, 02:17 PM

H. Upmann is a fine name as far as a CUBAN cigar but it has absolutely, positively NOTHING to do with the garbage they produce under that name in Honduras.

The ONLY thing non-Cuban cigars have in common with Cuban cigars of the same name is the NAME ONLY. Different companies, different tobacco, different countries, NOTHING and I repeat NOTHING in common with one another AT ALL, NADA ZIP, NOTHING.

Sorry if I was a little repetitive

**Kenyth** · 08-03-2005, 02:28 PM

Now let me see if I'm perfectly clear on this CC.

Are you trying to say that the Cuban and non-Cuban companies of the same name are not the same thing and their products suck?

Don't hold back and candy coat the issue like before . Tell us how it really is.

**BigMacFU** · 08-03-2005, 08:13 PM

I've never been one to venture the morning smoke, but I bought a box of Upman Cristales and they're certainly not a medium-full bodied cigar, but they have nice construction and an even burn. Their flavor isn't the most complex, but I'm sure it'd make somebody a nice morning newspaper cigar, after all, the lonsdale length is good for about 1.5 hours and you could easily take that long on a newspaper. I bought the box in the winter for around 38 dollars, so I didn't feel cheated. So, if anybody wants a morning cigar, I think I have a few more of these lying around.

P.S. They are better with age, that is for sure.

**Diesel Grinch** · 08-04-2005, 08:16 AM

I got one from a pass and was looking forward to smoking it. It wasn't what I expected. I wouldn't be running out to buy a box. Am I willing to try others in the line sure just not willing to pay $4.50 for another one of those.

**onceaweek** · 08-05-2005, 12:00 AM

I agree that the H Upmann was not that great. I may be a newbie but it had a poor draw. I've smoked a cheaper padron and was much more happier. Perhaps I will give them another chance. But for now. to H. Upmann

**jaewing** · 08-05-2005, 10:14 AM

I had one the other night. Picked it out of a pass a couple weeks ago. Smoked it now due to this thread.

I agree it was nothing special but I would not go so far as saying it was terrible. It had a good but not wonderful prelight aroma. Good draw and firm ash. Flavor was a bit one dimensional and mild to medium in strength. If it was cheap I would buy some for everyday stuff and giving to friends on poker night. If asked for a rating number I would say 83.

**QuietC** · 08-05-2005, 01:34 PM

i have a H. Upmann vintage cameroon and not sure what the other is, just has the 1844 on it. Havn't tried either kind, they better be good

**TN_CIGAR_MAN** · 09-24-2005, 04:31 PM

I'm fairly new to cigars. I've only smoked a few dozen over the past couple of years. Having said that, I tend to not care much for any cigar with a natural colored Connecticut wrapper. I find them to taste like chemicals or fresh parsley.

My first couple of Upmann Robustos weren't that impressive. I bought a 5 pack and smoked a couple. I let the other ones age a bit. After aging for a few months, I noticed a considerable change in the harshness of the cigar. It did not have nearly the same flavor as the other Connecticut wrapped cigars.

I guess I might have to just let them age a bit.

**CoventryCat86** · 09-24-2005, 05:06 PM

Originally Posted by Kenyth

Now let me see if I'm perfectly clear on this CC.

Are you trying to say that the Cuban and non-Cuban companies of the same name are not the same thing and their products suck?

Don't hold back and candy coat the issue like before . Tell us how it really is.

No, I'm saying that non-Cuban cigars using Cuban names "suck" you said that, I didn't.

**MMAB** · 09-24-2005, 06:19 PM

that non-Cuban cigars using Cuban names like "Cuban so-and-so" suck or that a Cuban brand's Dominican or Honduran counterpart brand sucks, e.g. RyJ Habana vs RyJ Dominican, etc.

I wish you'd be more detailed in your explanations as this is getting to be very confusing.

Now...as far as Upman Cigars.......THEY suck.....the non-Cuban variety I mean

**alexgtp** · 09-26-2005, 12:07 PM

H. Upmann _DOMESTIC..are not that good.
H. Upmann_ CUBAN....ARE THE BOMB!

**Kenyth** · 09-26-2005, 01:56 PM

Well, one things for sure, the domestic one I had wasn't all that great. I've also found out that I seem to be sorely mistaken about tubos being a sign of quality. Many gas station cigars now appear to come in glass tubes.

**Kenyth** · 12-27-2005, 02:52 PM

Originally Posted by jaewing

I had one the other night. Picked it out of a pass a couple weeks ago. Smoked it now due to this thread.

I agree it was nothing special but I would not go so far as saying it was terrible. It had a good but not wonderful prelight aroma. Good draw and firm ash. Flavor was a bit one dimensional and mild to medium in strength. If it was cheap I would buy some for everyday stuff and giving to friends on poker night. If asked for a rating number I would say 83.

I just tried another one of these. I recieved it from a friend. He loves them. It had about a 50 ring gauge, so it was a bit bigger than the last tubo I had, which was about 44. This one looked, felt, smelled and tasted much better than the other one. I wouldn't call it a great smoke or a real complex flavor, but it was nice. It's about how jaewing descibes his here.

**LeojVS** · 12-30-2005, 12:24 AM

Yeah, I was dissapointed tith the H. Upmanns. I had a Corona Majors and geez it was a hard draw, harsh, and not all that great. It kept going out too. Lasted near 2.5 hours in between me getting the shits and relighting it so many times....

**The Master** · 01-08-2006, 01:02 PM

Non Cuban Upmanns used to be a great line of cigars when they only used Cameroon wrappers. Some time during the boom, they switched to Indonesian wrappers and ruined their entire line of cigars. Back in the mid 80's the Upmann cigars were some of the best on the market.

The Cuban Upmanns are one of Cubas best lines. They are very consistent throughout the line and use very high quality tobacco.