Wtf

[CoventryCat86]

I am more of a traditionalist. Just wondering if longbows and wooden arrows are allowed. Let it be known I am not of the caliber of you and the others but I really like it here and would be happy to light some bitch on fire with flaming arrows.

LMAO!! Then you gotta go to the long "Kinky for Governor" thread and shoot one in Amanda's sorry ass, she's the poster child for Grand Cru's post

[mithril]

I am more of a traditionalist. Just wondering if longbows and wooden arrows are allowed. Let it be known I am not of the caliber of you and the others but I really like it here and would be happy to light some bitch on fire with flaming arrows.

i'm with out on this. though i perfer recurves.

edit: just so you know, i don't have a bow yet, i'm saving up.

[godfather]

...Hex has reconsidered his original position and this lowlife TheyCallMeMeanix is now permanently banned.

So where the hell is cigarsarge now that TCM has been permanently banned (haven't seen any posts yet)?

sarge, let's get a move on here! Get back to this board....you've been missed buddy.

[hex1848]

Manix sent me this:

just wanted to touch base with you

i have been thinking about all of this long and hard, i need more time to put my thoughts together. please let everyone know this. and specially that i am indeed apologetic but i need more time to think of what ive done and what needs to be done from this point on. please and thanks

[Leebo]

TCMM should think about english classes....Oh Mrs. Cabtree???

We don't need folks like thse on the boards, they can't even carry on a coversation like adults....kick him to the curb.

Where's Corona Gigante? I thought he missed me so I'm back...

[hex1848]

More from Manix:

about the apology or what not . . . i was serious when i said i needed more time. i have been doing a lot of soul searching and have been in deep thought as to my actions on the board and overall socially. i feel the guys on the board deserve a heartfelt and truthful apology. i am not going to apologize to get "back in" because i dont want back in. and i dont mean that in a derogatory way, i simply do not feel that some of the comments made in response to mine however incorrect and out of bounds they may have been were unecessary(sp?). i want you all to know that in my time to think i have come to realize that i was dead wrong to do what i did. do i apologize for saying what i said? no, i unfortunately can not be untrue to myself no matter how horrible a person i may be or how horrible my opinions might be. i do agree that i need to do some reflecting on my thoughts and beliefs. i want you all to know this is no excuse for what i did or think but an explanation of what is going through my mind. many of you jump to call me names and what not, thats fine . . . i dont care about how you handle things in your personal life, others want to jump on the band wagon in fear of getting tossed out . . . fine. i dont care. however, i do/did care about the board and appreciated it. i AM sorry that i ruined things for myself. and you need to know that, and that i take full responsability. i blame no one but myself. for the things that have been said about me and the conspiracy like PMing that has gone on behind my back . . . . i can only say . . . i really truly dont care. i could only ask that you have the balls to say things to my face. there are a lot of childish people on here who seem to have that "means girls" clique attitude. thats fine, i prefer to step away from and above that. if i have ever said anything about anyone else in a PM which i have, it was in privacy because i did not want to start a riot between me and that person. not because i was affraid to tell them to their face or in public. simply out of courtesy to the board. and again, i have my opinions and am entitled to them about anyone and anything. if that person wants me to say it in public i have no problem with it but i choose and chose not to make it a big ole fight.

since i sorta already started my apology . . . i want to say i am truly sorry for posting my racist and over the line type comments on the board. yes, the rules didnt state it was a no no but i should have had better judgement. i was having a bad day and was in a i dont give a shit mood. im sorry i did that. im sorry i made that thread about that and me. im so soo soooo sorry i ruined a good thing i had going, and that i made ANYone have to go through this.


i AM going through a troubling time in my life as far as trying to realize who i am and why i am certain ways that i am. i am struggling with racism, i am struggling with a lack of tolerance. and for that i feel horrible as a person. if it make you feel better to know that i suffer from that then i am glad to say it. i DO NOT want anyone to think i am seeking acceptance of what i said or how i feel. i just want you to know i am struggling through something thats very real. i apologize profusely(sp?) for what i said and did. i feel like shit . . . i made a total ass of myself in front of acquaintances that i liked and treasured.

now, there are some of those acquaintances that have acted not so honorably either. i would like to know exactly how i am a "liar and a cheat"?? and what i did on the PIF thread to deserve such attacks not related to the racism thread.

please email me through HEX to explain this to me. i am not being an ass, im asking this because i want to know if i did something that i may not have realized in order to remember it so i can change that manner of acting or speaking. i genuinely ask in humility.

speaking of humility . . . i want you all to know that i ate a huuuge piece of humble pie. i cant say enough how shitty i feel for what i did to the board and to myself(getting banned)

im not gonna go into the whole being not banned, then temp banned then perma banned or whatever . . . i do feel that that was handled a bit unfairly but like someone pointed out, its a private board and hex can do as he wishes. plus, even if i got the chance to apologize there are obviously some people who dont have enough capacity to forgive and forget. i DO believe that is because of something unrelated. it seems there was some sort of vendetta (for lack of a better word) against me behind the scenes for something i was never confronted with which i think was cowardly and pathetic if we are gonna start calling people names-something i did not do first. anyway, bottom line is i dont really care. i feel its ridiculous that a. someone was working behind the scenes to try and "get me"(i have proof, email me if you want it) and b. everyone is following every word/lead of a certain person like lost little puppies that have no mind of their own. . . . whatever he says must be true/right etc.

again, im not calling any people out publicly cause im not looking to start a flame . . . or hell, any other bad blood. but if you can figure it out its because you see it happen, and if you are the person then know who you are obviously . . . please please PLEASE do not misinterpret me(again) to be trying to start something, im not. but again, i am entitled to my opinion.

i think we should just part ways at this point. you have all said your peace, now i have said mine. i will not be returning obviously but i prefer it that way and made that decision long before it was made for me. mostly because i felt as many of you do, that i didnt deserve to be here and that you didnt deserve to have a racist "bigot" as it were, around.

later that grew to be because i didnt want to come back to such an unspportive and quick to judge community as opposed to a place where things can be talked out or people can be counseled by older wiser supposedly more mature people, not only cigars but on other issues as well.

i mean that with no disrespect or hard feelings. i just wanted to get it out there.

i really truly hope people dont spend another 3 or 4 days talking about me and saying things i couldnt possibly respond to. if you have a personal issue with me then by all means email me through hex. but as far as me leaving or being banned, keep it to the facts.


again, i truly and profusely apologize to the board, the members, hex, any black or gay members . . . . i feel horrible for putting my thoughts out there like that when they were sorely uncalled for. please know that i know that.

i am soo soo soo soo sorry for bringing to board to this. i truly loved this board and wanted to be a long time respectable member of it. i obviously have much growing up to do. and i have much time to think to myself about what comes out of my mouth, but most importantly whats in my heart. i AM sorry for being a racist, but right now, its what i am. i made a mistake in thinking i could expect supportive and constructive criticism, not saying that you are at fault. my mistake was a. the way i made it evident that i needed it and b. it was the wrong place completely.

i will always regret messing up a good thing but it seemed inevitable as some people were apparently delighting in having something to get me banned. i honestly dont know why. but mostly, i dont know why they didnt come to me with whatever they had.i dont see how that makes any sense. anyway, that all doesnt matter now. i know some will talk badly about me after this but thats life. all i ask is that we can go our separate ways, that you see that i AM truly sorry and that this doesnt get dragged out into other forums like it has been already. i am conscience of my faults and am working to change them. plus i am sorry for what i did and how i did it. that should be enough for those that want to "ruin me" on other board to keep from trying to do so. i agree i dont deserve to stay seeing as how what i did was not appropriate and the members have the right to not want me here. but please dont burn me at the stake at some other board when i have done nothing over there and have decided to cause no one any harm in any shape or form, including thinking long and hard before i speak and thinking about the board and its members before i say something. i truly appreciate the boards im a member of and if my demise is imminent(sp?) and you are so sure i will crash and burn, let me do it on my own. dont put fuel to the fire when there is no reason to(on that specific board) . . . please.


i havent killed anyone, i havent stolen from anyone( i have paid forward what was paid to me-to troops in afghanistan-email me if you want proof) and i dont think i should be persecuted for something i a. did at another board and is over with and b. shown remorse for, asked for forgiveness and stated that i am trying to change my views . . . not to mention that i am conscience of my wreckless pattern.

please, this should be enough to keep you from doing any unnecessary harm that if you are right and i am the worst person who deserves to be banned from the internet in general . . . i can do on my own, let others decide on THOSE boards. thats all i ask

again, i am truly sorry to all of you, i regret doing what i did and the way i did it. i am sorry to all the black, gay and black gay people on the site. i had no place and didnt think before i said what i did. i might be leaving some stuff out and i apologize for that. please contact me if i need to do more.

sorry and goodbye

[godfather]

Well 4 lines into this and I'm already done with this load of b.s. I'm reading...he's not sorry at all.

do i apologize for saying what i said? no, i unfortunately can not be untrue to myself no matter how horrible a person i may be or how horrible my opinions might be.

This guy is the biggest piece of trash I've ever come across on this board. I read his profile and the deal breaker was viewing his blog: http://5x50.blogspot.com

This guy is a seriously messed up individual and his blog is PROOF of what a racist he is.

Also what a complete MORON. Way to talk about your 'job' on a blog with a bunch of NEGATIVE comments (read his June 23rd entry). I hope your employer finds your BLOG and FIRES YOU. I can't believe anyone could be that stupid to post something like that! Unbelievable...

Guys like you need to be taken out of the gene pool and should NOT be allowed to reproduce .

[bigpoppapuff]

he's nothing compared to amanda......imho

[basil]

want you all to know that in my time to think i have come to realize that i was dead wrong to do what i did. do i apologize for saying what i said? no, i unfortunately can not be untrue to myself no matter how horrible a person i may be or how horrible my opinions might be. i do agree that i need to do some reflecting on my thoughts and beliefs. i want you all to know this is no excuse for what i did or think but an explanation of what is going through my mind. many of you jump to call me names and what not, thats fine . . . i dont care about how you handle things in your personal life, others want to jump on the band wagon in fear of getting tossed out . . . fine. i dont care. however, i do/did care about the board and appreciated it. i AM sorry that i ruined things for myself. and you need to know that, and that i take full responsability. i blame no one but myself. for the things that have been said about me and the conspiracy like PMing that has gone on behind my back . . . . i can only say . . . i really truly dont care. i could only ask that you have the balls to say things to my face. there are a lot of childish people on here who seem to have that "means girls" clique attitude. thats fine, i prefer to step away from and above that. self-aggrandizing bullshitif i have ever said anything about anyone else in a PM which i have, it was in privacy because i did not want to start a riot between me and that person. not because i was affraid to tell them to their face or in public. simply out of courtesy to the board. and again, i have my opinions and am entitled to them about anyone and anything. if that person wants me to say it in public i have no problem with it but i choose and chose not to make it a big ole fight.

i AM going through a troubling time in my life as far as trying to realize who i am and why i am certain ways that i am. i am struggling with racism, i am struggling with a lack of tolerance. and for that i feel horrible as a person. if it make you feel better to know that i suffer from that then i am glad to say it. i DO NOT want anyone to think i am seeking acceptance of what i said or how i feel. i just want you to know i am struggling through something thats very real. i apologize profusely(sp?) for what i said and did. i feel like shit . . . i made a total ass of myself in front of acquaintances that i liked and treasured.

now, there are some of those acquaintances that have acted not so honorably either. i would like to know exactly how i am a "liar and a cheat"?? and what i did on the PIF thread to deserve such attacks not related to the racism thread.

no prob. btw, you wouldn't know "honor" if you tripped over it.

Lie #1.

as stupid as this is seeing as how this guy isnt kidding around like when i did something similar(in joking) i agree with lopaka . . . whatever gg says. i do think this brings out a good edit requirement in the rules for those less in touch with common sense and who need things spelled out for them . . . . the unspoken rule that everyone understood very very well of posting "WHO WANTS free cigars?" is apparently not clear enough.

There was never a written nor unwritten saying how the term "free cigars" should be presented. Previously, people had said it different ways. However, as you stood to gain (free cigars), you took issue with my claim and made up some idiotic "manix rule" about how it should be written. bullshit.

Lie #2.

i know nothing about your history here but i hope you make your future a good one.

This was posted on 8/21/05.

anyone see how i made a fool of myself on cp today? you'd figure -I- would know better . . . gee frickin wizz!!! what was i thinkin???!!! lol

and YES this IS on topic

This post was directed at me (see the 'on topic' part - I was the main topic) 3 days earlier, immediately after my 3rd post on this board. Not much history to remember really. bullshit.

Lie #3. after this:

Nope, sorry that's not the heads up. Not according to the rules anyway.

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this,

ehh, i GUESS ill take em . . . .

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and this,

as stupid as this is seeing as how this guy isnt kidding around . . . . sorry for the long post but apparently we need to be crystal clear here lol

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gg declared a winner, and then manix posted this:

actually, i wanted to post earlier that i think basil SHOULD win because

. . . . blahblahblah. If this is what you meant to say, you sure blew a lot of opportunites to say it. More bullshit.

please email me through HEX to explain this to me. i am not being an ass, im asking this because i want to know if i did something that i may not have realized in order to remember it so i can change that manner of acting or speaking. i genuinely ask in humility.

email through Hex. My ass. here it is in public.

speaking of humility . . . i want you all to know that i ate a huuuge piece of humble pie. look! look! see how HUMBLE I AM?!?? expressions of humility don't need advertisement dumbass.i cant say enough how shitty i feel for what i did to the board and to myself(getting banned)

im not gonna go into the whole being not banned, then temp banned then perma banned or whatever . . . i do feel that that was handled a bit unfairly but like someone pointed out, its a private board and hex can do as he wishes. plus, even if i got the chance to apologize there are obviously some people who dont have enough capacity to forgive and forget. i DO believe that is because of something unrelated. it seems there was some sort of vendetta (for lack of a better word) against me behind the scenes for something i was never confronted with which i think was cowardly and pathetic if we are gonna start calling people names-something i did not do first. anyway, bottom line is i dont really care. i feel its ridiculous that a. someone was working behind the scenes to try and "get me"(i have proof, email me if you want it) and b. everyone is following every word/lead of a certain person like lost little puppies that have no mind of their own. . . . whatever he says must be true/right etc. thinly veiled call-out

again, im not calling any people out publicly umm, yeah, you just did.cause im not looking to start a flame . . . or hell, any other bad blood. but if you can figure it out its because you see it happen, and if you are the person then know who you are obviously . . . please please PLEASE do not misinterpret me(again) to be trying to start something, im not. but again, i am entitled to my opinion.

i think we should just part ways at this point. you have all said your peace, now i have said mine. i will not be returning obviously but i prefer it that way and made that decision long before it was made for me. mostly because i felt as many of you do, that i didnt deserve to be here and that you didnt deserve to have a racist "bigot" as it were, around.

later that grew to be because i didnt want to come back to such an unspportive and quick to judge community as opposed to a place where things can be talked out or people can be counseled by older wiser supposedly more mature people, not only cigars but on other issues as well.

i mean that with no disrespect or hard feelings. liar i just wanted to get it out there.

i really truly hope people dont spend another 3 or 4 days talking about me and saying things i couldnt possibly respond to. if you have a personal issue with me then by all means email me through hex. but as far as me leaving or being banned, keep it to the facts. Thanks for providing so many in this little "apology".

i havent killed anyone, i havent stolen from anyone a troll's gotta draw a line somewhere!( i have paid forward what was paid to me-to troops in afghanistan-email me if you want proof) and i dont think i should be persecuted for something i a. did at another board and is over with and b. shown remorse for, asked for forgiveness where above, exactly, have you asked for forgiveness?? and stated that i am trying to change my views . . . not to mention that i am conscience of my wreckless pattern.

again, i am truly sorry to all of you, i regret doing what i did and the way i did it. i am sorry to all the black, gay and black gay people on the site. i had no place and didnt think before i said what i did. i might be leaving some stuff out and i apologize for that. please contact me if i need to do more. take full responsibility for ALL your bullshit with no ifs, ands, or buts.

sorry and goodbye

This whole bullshit apology is shot through with double talk, blame reversal, and attempts to invoke guilt from others. Unfuckingbelievable.

Here's the thing: lest someone read "sour grapes" into this response, I believe in 2nd chances. But ONLY when the asking is genuine. Again, I appreciate your efforts toward fairness Hex, but his guy's still full of shit.

[basil]

he's nothing compared to amanda......imho

I dunno - Amanda was overtly malicious - wysiwyg.

This guy is covert, cynical - insidious and hard to spot.

[Devil Doc]

I just got done reading this whole imbrolio and I'm taking some advice I read in another thread. Stay out of stuff that you don't have all the info on. But I have to comend you gentlemen on how this was handled. I think I'm going to like it here.

[Lopaka]

I just hope that none of that was directed at me Basil

[CoventryCat86]

Oh man, I don't have the time nor the energy to address ALL this guy's BS, double-talk, lies, etc. I think basil did and EXCELLENT job of that and I'm grateful that he did.

These two lines from theycallmemeanix jumped out at me:

and the conspiracy like PMing that has gone on behind my back

i could only ask that you have the balls to say things to my face.

This is coming from the same little sonofabitch who was trashing me in PMs to other members.

This guy is nothing but trouble and should be and remain permanently banned. His apology is NOT sincere and full of attacks, and attempts to place the blame elsewhere. A simple:

"I'm truly and deeply sorry, I was 100% wrong."

would have sufficed but assholes like him and amanda do not have it in them to EVER sincerely feel remorse for their actions and will go to their graves insisting that they're some kind of "victims" here. corona gigante isn't far behind these too either.......

[MMAB]

I keep missing all of this stuff. I know that I'm not a VERY active member, but I like to log on each day and see what everyone has to say.

I noticed a few posts here and there from Mannix but missed the nasty stuff. My first impressions of him weren't that great. From those few posts and the pic of himself that he posted, they said a lot. The pic was simple, but I could see it in his eyes. Young, cocky, opinionated, pushy. The "tough guy" look.

After reading his rambling, disjointed apology AND his blog I am amazed at how messed up this kid is.

As someone said earlier in this thread, "he was speaking his mind".

Funny thing when people "speak their mind". They actually mean what they say and no matter how much they apologize or no matter how many excuses they babble on with...they are still thinking the same way as when they spoke their mind earlier. No matter if it's ten minutes later, ten days later or ten years later.

Insensitivity and racism are tough habits to break.

It's truly sad. I hope Mannix can overcome his hatred.

I hope Cigar Sarge will come back....I hope no one else leaves.

Take it easy on Hex too. Running this site can't be a picnic. He's trying to keep everyone happy. His original judgment to ban Mannix for a short time seemed just. Mannix would have been a fool to come back anyway and I'm sure if he had come back, the community would have shunned him (as well we should) and he would have faded away quickly. And hey! We could have hammered him into oblivion and boosted the Neilsen ratings for this board through the roof!