The Death Penalty, Kids being charged as Adults

[SuperChuck]

The boot camp thing has been tried. The last one was dismantled a couple of months ago - it was in CA and was part of the Bureau of Prisons (BOP - Federal).

Weren't those the crazy tent city things? I think the guy that was running those was a total nut... I believe they were effective, but the guy running them was whacky.

The "creative labor" thing is and has been part of prison systems for decades.

I've seen a lot of labor, but not a lot of creative labor.
Picking up garbage and doing laundry doesn't really give you a feeling of building something, something to be proud of. There's just going to be more litter and laundry tomorrow...

[cigarsarge]

Fifteen year olds know right from wrong. If they don't why do so many of em run from crime scenes when authorities approach?

Death Penalty

Juveniles Charged As Adults

[SuperChuck]

I think there's a big difference between "knowing right from wrong" and having a full understanding of right and wrong.

As a kid, I knew it was "wrong" to kill someone, but I had NO CONCEPT of the repercussions of actually killing someone.

I had all these valiant ideas in my head about dying in the line of duty and laying down my life for the good of the nation. Now as an old guy, you couldn't drag my ass into Iraq. I understood that dying was a bad thing, but I didn't really understand the permanence of death.

[cigarsarge]

I think there's a big difference between "knowing right from wrong" and having a full understanding of right and wrong.

As a kid, I knew it was "wrong" to kill someone, but I had NO CONCEPT of the repercussions of actually killing someone.

You sadly under estimate the teenagers of today. The kids I deal with know exactly what they are doing and repercussions. The typical "gangster" kid I deal with knows full well death is final, the repercussions in the famly of the deceased, and what could happen to them if caught. They just don't give a crap. The only exception being mentally challenged kids.

[SuperChuck]

The typical "gangster" kid I deal with knows full well death is final, the repercussions in the famly of the deceased, and what could happen to them if caught. They just don't give a crap.

That's what I mean, though. On paper, I understood all that death being final stuff, but I didn't care. Now, being older, I do "give a crap". I understand how valuable and precious life is.

If you talk to these same kids in 10 or 20 years (those who are lucky enough to start over), they'll tell you how stupid they think all that was and that they're glad they made it out alive, etc.

It's not relegated to the criminal, either. If you've ever met anyone that was involved with some of the more messed up secret government projects, they have the same mindset, like it wasn't them doing it. Even people that have been in combat are the same way.

[reaganyouth84]

The Attorney General here in Tennessee was in town today. He says he wants the kid that caused the school shooting here yesterday to be tried as an adult.

-Mike

[Kayakinboy]

The Attorney General here in Tennessee was in town today. He says he wants the kid that caused the school shooting here yesterday to be tried as an adult.

-Mike

Hopefully the kid will plead out. Prayers should be with the victims and the kid's family. Unless any of us PERSONALLY have had this happened, we can't relate, and I know if my sister (I'm the only boy) was in jail for the holidays, not to mention the rest of her life, I'd be pretty down and in need of God.