this "shrub's for you".....

[Lopaka]

...but does W smoke cigars - that's all I wanna know...

Yes. And on Air Force One he's known to walk around with one and chew on it because he won't smoke on the plane. He's humi is always filled with smokes.

[WhiteWidow]

Yes. And on Air Force One he's known to walk around with one and chew on it because he won't smoke on the plane. He's humi is always filled with smokes.

I wonder how many Cubans he has

[Lopaka]

I don't know. However, if I ever get to tour AF One, I'm going find that humi and take a picutre of it with smokies in it. Then probably get my ass kicked by S.S.

However, I asked what smokes the Pres enjoys and I'm still trying to get the answer on that one.

[ggiese]

Yes. And on Air Force One he's known to walk around with one and chew on it because he won't smoke on the plane. He's humi is always filled with smokes.

There ya go!!! He can't be ALL bad...

[SmokinDVM]

He doesn't smoke it? He just chews it?

Wasteful sumbich!

[ggiese]

He doesn't smoke it? He just chews it?

Wasteful sumbich!

It's thinking it has to be those friggen politicians who've make smoking illegal every where except in a small 3 foot by 3 foot area of northern Montana....

[SmokinDVM]

It's thinking it has to be those friggen politicians who've make smoking illegal every where except in a small 3 foot by 3 foot area of northern Montana....

He doesn't give a crap about any of the other laws he breaks, why would he worry about some little anti-smoking law?
Besides, he's king george, the decider, laws are beneath him.

I'd bet Clinton smoked his cigars on the AF1, or did he just dip them for flavor?

[BigMacFU]

I think Clinton was smokin' those Drew Estate Naturals

[bigpoppapuff]

clinton's favorite cigar was the "monicanudo".....

[slcraiders]

clinton's favorite cigar was the "monicanudo".....

[SmokinDVM]

clinton's favorite cigar was the "monicanudo".....

At least they wouldn't taste like an envelope!

[bigpoppapuff]

At least they wouldn't taste like an envelope!

mmmmm...sardines...

[SmokinDVM]

Like an old friend of mine used to say..."If it smells like fish it's a dish, if it smells like cologne leave it alone."

Crazy bastard he was. His nick was "Cheech". Had an old Dodge Dart with the gold dingleballs and all.

[CgarDan]

mmmmm...sardines...

LMAO

[thepyrofish]

What the fuck happened to this thread?

[jaewing]

Set record for most executions by any governor in American history.

Good for him. Less tax payer money supporting murderers the better. AND if he had not done this you all would be complaining that he was soft on crime.

Became president after losing the popular vote by over 500,000 votes, with the help of my father's appointments to the Supreme Court.

Funny that the laws of our country with regard to Presidential elections have nothing to do with the "popular vote". There is something that is called the Electoral College that has been in place for Presidential elections for a very long time. Funny how the left now wants to do away with that because "W" did not get more popular votes.

Attacked and took over two countries

Seems we were attacked first or have you forgotton 911?

First president in decades to execute a federal prisoner.

And your point is?

Cut unemployment benefits for more out of work Americans than any president in U.S. history.

Incentive to get a job. Get a job . . . now there is a novel idea!

Presided over the highest gasoline prices in U.S. history and refused to use the national reserves as past presidents have.

This will have little to no effect on gas prices.

First president in U.S. history to have all 50 states of the Union simultaneously go bankrupt.

What the hell are you talking about?

First president in U.S. history to order a U.S. attack and military occupation of a sovereign nation.

Defended our country and responded to an attack which killed 3000 + people. Did you forget 991?

First U.S. president to establish a secret shadow government.

If it is secret how do you know about it?

ma

de the U.S. the most resented country in the world

And yet everybody and their mother wants to come here and get all the free education, healthcare, and wellfare benefits . . . or for the few jobs and opportunity.

With a policy of 'disengagement' created the most hostile Israeli-Palestine relations in at least 30 years.

And if we were "engaged" you would be complaining that we were invading and nation building. I am sure the Israelis and Palestinians have nothing to do with their own situation over there. America our policy is full to blame for their little war.

Failed to fulfill my pledge to get Osama Bin Laden 'dead or alive.'

Unless I am mistaken we are still working on that. That is unless the left is successful in pulling out the troops before the job is done.

Texas driving record has been erased and is not available

An option available to everyone with old convictions.

AWOL from National Guard and deserted the military during a time of war.

Old news or should I say an old fabricated and falsified story that was created by the leftist media and was the cause of the downfall of a major media personality.

All minutes of meetings for any public corporation I served on the board are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.
Any records or minutes from meetings I (or my VP) attended regarding public energy policy are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public review.

As are many other records from past Presidents (Republican and Democrat).

Now GW has not been the best President from my party and is a bit of an embarrassment as a public speaker. But most of the crybaby drivel spewed out above is contrived and conveniently ignores the fact that the previous president did most of the same and worse. Firing missiles at another country to distract attention away form the Lewinsky scandal comes to mind.

Could GW do better? Could we do better than GW? Yes to both. Would Any Democratic candidate in the last two elections have done better . . . a resounding NO! Gore can go back to claiming he invented the internet and that our flatulence is melting the ice caps. Kerry just did not have a clue and had even less personality.

One thing for sure is that 2008 should prove to be interesting.

[WhiteWidow]

Those are some pretty good arguments

[cigar no baka]

Just goes to show the undying, irrational, burning hatred that the left has buried under their kind, sympathetic, empathetic "I feel your pain" exterior. Doesn't really surprise me considering the types of pathetic sociopaths they choose to be their leaders - Slick Willy, James Carville, good old foaming-at-the-mouth raving lunatic Howard Dean....

[SmokinDVM]

Good for him. Less tax payer money supporting murderers the better. AND if he had not done this you all would be complaining that he was soft on crime.

I'm sure he's real proud he's killed some people too. I bet it makes it easier to wrap your mind around the idea of torture also.

Funny that the laws of our country with regard to Presidential elections have nothing to do with the "popular vote". There is something that is called the Electoral College that has been in place for Presidential elections for a very long time. Funny how the left now wants to do away with that because "W" did not get more popular votes.

Neocons always miss the point on this one. It's not about the popular vote, which it turns out dumbya didn't really get, but it is about the activist Supreme Court illegally getting involved in a State issue.

Seems we were attacked first or have you forgotton 911?

We were attacked by Iraq? Oh wait, it was the threat of WMD's that Saddam never had, yes that's it.

And your point is?

I think the gist is...dumbya is an incompetent idiot.

Incentive to get a job. Get a job . . . now there is a novel idea!

How about helping the American People in general, not just the richest 1%? Trickle down theories don't work. Didn't work for RR, and dumbya isn't smart enough not to repeat the same mistakes, as well as adding his own pathetic twists.

This will have little to no effect on gas prices.

But his secret energy policy meetings sure did.

What the hell are you talking about?

Again, I suspect it's something along the lines of...dumbya's an idiot!

Defended our country and responded to an attack which killed 3000 + people. Did you forget 991?

Woulda been nice if that Country had actually attacked us, or even been a remote threat. Always invoking 9/11 isn't a valid reason for committing crimes and ignoring the Constitution.

If it is secret how do you know about it?

Again, dumbya=idiot.

And yet everybody and their mother wants to come here and get all the free education, healthcare, and wellfare benefits . . . or for the few jobs and opportunity.

Yep, and pretty soon you won't be able to tell us from Mexico. I'll bet all the rich neocons just hate that.

Unless I am mistaken we are still working on that. That is unless the left is successful in pulling out the troops before the job is done.

Now, they don't want to get rid of that "boogey man" too soon. If they did, what would they have to get the people real scared with?

An option available to everyone with old convictions.

A lame cop-out.

Old news or should I say an old fabricated and falsified story that was created by the leftist media and was the cause of the downfall of a major media personality.

Actually true. A few papers were fabricated, but the accusation is still true.

As are many other records from past Presidents (Republican and Democrat).

Yes, but no other POTUS has followed those secret energy policy meetings with record increases in fuel costs, and record profits for the oil companies and their execs who participated in the meetings.


Neocons can never resist bringing Clinton up. Difference is, Clinton was POTUS during a period of record prosperity for all Americans.

[jaewing]

dumbya is an incompetent idiot . . .dumbya's an idiot . . . Again, dumbya=idiot.. . .A lame cop-out. . .

Real intelligent retorts. No facts or anything of reason to back up your statements. The only thing you left off was "Yo Momma".

Actually true. A few papers were fabricated, but the accusation is still true.

So all it takes is an accusation for something to be true? In that case you sleep with transvestite necrofilliac space aliens. Watch out I just created a fact by accusation!

Clinton was POTUS during a period of record prosperity for all Americans.

First of all it is President of the United States not POTUS. Don't denegrate the highest office (regardless of who holds it) in the greatest country in the world with your internet shorthand lingo. AND I believe you were mistaken and were referring to the 80's as the period of record prosperity for all Americans.

Clinton increased taxes on all taxpaying americans, especially the so-called rich, and implemented more failed, pork-filled, overbudgeted, and ill-conceived social welfare programs that did almost nothing for the peeple they were intended for and more to create more government programs and government salaries. Was there ever a tax cut or reduction in spending under Clinton? Clinton's screwed up economic policy and social programs are being reflected in today's economy (now that we are paying for them) so you cannot blame W for that. Clinton's time in office and the prosperity he enjoyed was due to the policies and hard work of the previous two Presidents.

Rant over.

Have a great 4th of July long weekend. Remember who is responsible for our freedom. Not G.W. not Clinton, not any President . . . but those who fought, sacrificed, and died to serve and protect this great nation.