this "shrub's for you".....

[SmokinDVM]

Good for him. Less tax payer money supporting murderers the better. AND if he had not done this you all would be complaining that he was soft on crime.

I'm sure he's real proud he's killed some people too. I bet it makes it easier to wrap your mind around the idea of torture also.

Funny that the laws of our country with regard to Presidential elections have nothing to do with the "popular vote". There is something that is called the Electoral College that has been in place for Presidential elections for a very long time. Funny how the left now wants to do away with that because "W" did not get more popular votes.

Neocons always miss the point on this one. It's not about the popular vote, which it turns out dumbya didn't really get, but it is about the activist Supreme Court illegally getting involved in a State issue.

Seems we were attacked first or have you forgotton 911?

We were attacked by Iraq? Oh wait, it was the threat of WMD's that Saddam never had, yes that's it.

And your point is?

I think the gist is...dumbya is an incompetent idiot.

Incentive to get a job. Get a job . . . now there is a novel idea!

How about helping the American People in general, not just the richest 1%? Trickle down theories don't work. Didn't work for RR, and dumbya isn't smart enough not to repeat the same mistakes, as well as adding his own pathetic twists.

This will have little to no effect on gas prices.

But his secret energy policy meetings sure did.

What the hell are you talking about?

Again, I suspect it's something along the lines of...dumbya's an idiot!

Defended our country and responded to an attack which killed 3000 + people. Did you forget 991?

Woulda been nice if that Country had actually attacked us, or even been a remote threat. Always invoking 9/11 isn't a valid reason for committing crimes and ignoring the Constitution.

If it is secret how do you know about it?

Again, dumbya=idiot.

And yet everybody and their mother wants to come here and get all the free education, healthcare, and wellfare benefits . . . or for the few jobs and opportunity.

Yep, and pretty soon you won't be able to tell us from Mexico. I'll bet all the rich neocons just hate that.

Unless I am mistaken we are still working on that. That is unless the left is successful in pulling out the troops before the job is done.

Now, they don't want to get rid of that "boogey man" too soon. If they did, what would they have to get the people real scared with?

An option available to everyone with old convictions.

A lame cop-out.

Old news or should I say an old fabricated and falsified story that was created by the leftist media and was the cause of the downfall of a major media personality.

Actually true. A few papers were fabricated, but the accusation is still true.

As are many other records from past Presidents (Republican and Democrat).

Yes, but no other POTUS has followed those secret energy policy meetings with record increases in fuel costs, and record profits for the oil companies and their execs who participated in the meetings.


Neocons can never resist bringing Clinton up. Difference is, Clinton was POTUS during a period of record prosperity for all Americans.

[jaewing]

dumbya is an incompetent idiot . . .dumbya's an idiot . . . Again, dumbya=idiot.. . .A lame cop-out. . .

Real intelligent retorts. No facts or anything of reason to back up your statements. The only thing you left off was "Yo Momma".

Actually true. A few papers were fabricated, but the accusation is still true.

So all it takes is an accusation for something to be true? In that case you sleep with transvestite necrofilliac space aliens. Watch out I just created a fact by accusation!

Clinton was POTUS during a period of record prosperity for all Americans.

First of all it is President of the United States not POTUS. Don't denegrate the highest office (regardless of who holds it) in the greatest country in the world with your internet shorthand lingo. AND I believe you were mistaken and were referring to the 80's as the period of record prosperity for all Americans.

Clinton increased taxes on all taxpaying americans, especially the so-called rich, and implemented more failed, pork-filled, overbudgeted, and ill-conceived social welfare programs that did almost nothing for the peeple they were intended for and more to create more government programs and government salaries. Was there ever a tax cut or reduction in spending under Clinton? Clinton's screwed up economic policy and social programs are being reflected in today's economy (now that we are paying for them) so you cannot blame W for that. Clinton's time in office and the prosperity he enjoyed was due to the policies and hard work of the previous two Presidents.

Rant over.

Have a great 4th of July long weekend. Remember who is responsible for our freedom. Not G.W. not Clinton, not any President . . . but those who fought, sacrificed, and died to serve and protect this great nation.

[thepyrofish]

I believe POTUS is shorthand that's used by the secret service/military. I could be wrong, but I had a customer who works for the SS and I think that's what he said.

*Shrugs*

[bigpoppapuff]

POTUS is hardly denegration.........bush=POS could be....

[Lopaka]

President Of The United States. And yes, we us it.

[SmokinDVM]

Real intelligent retorts. No facts or anything of reason to back up your statements. The only thing you left off was "Yo Momma".

Well, Yo Momma!

So all it takes is an accusation for something to be true?

Nice attempt at a redirection, even if it was lame.
Actually, it is FACT that he was a deserter. He couldn't even fulfill non-active pussy duty. All Veterans should be ashamed at having this POS as POTUS, I know I am.

Don't denegrate the highest office (regardless of who holds it) in the greatest country in the world with your internet shorthand lingo.

I wasn't denegrating the office, dumbya has made a laughing-stock of it without my help.

AND I believe you were mistaken and were referring to the 80's as the period of record prosperity for all Americans.

Nope, no mistake, it was the 90's. You know, that period that we had an actual balanced budget, heck a budget surplus. And it wasn't because of RR's and BSr that that happened. Everyone knows, and can see especially now, that "conservatives" economic policies are huge failures.



Now you have a great weekend, and 4th of July.

[ggiese]

[BigMacFU]

The balancing act didn't start happening until after 1994, which if I remember correctly was the first time in 40 years that the house and senate were a Republican majority. Tax bills don't get passed by the President, they're written and pork-barrelled by legislators and signed by the Pres or vetoed. Did Clinton have the smarts to listen to his congress and senate at the time yes, and he gets all the credit in the world for that. Another reason for the economy doing so well had very little to do with the government at the time though, it had to do with the technology sector taking off and finally becoming what it was meant to be. Let's be honest, if the government was holding the economy's hand the whole way in the 90's, they wouldn't have had to go after Gates so bad over a non-issue (having to package Navigator with Winblows, I mean, that's like saying every 6-pack of coke has to have a pepsi in it, and unfortunately, this is how they got Gates to pay up) except that they wanted all the money that was not going into the government's tax coffers.

[bluesman455]

shrubs?...beware of the Giant Hogweed.

[SmokinDVM]

The balancing act didn't start happening until after 1994, which if I remember correctly was the first time in 40 years that the house and senate were a Republican majority..

Yes, and look how quickly they f'ed it up.
And, according to prevailing neocon "logic", the prosperity immediately following the Dems loss of Congressional control would have to be attributed to the Dems.

[BigMacFU]

Yes, and look how quickly they f'ed it up.
And, according to prevailing neocon "logic", the prosperity immediately following the Dems loss of Congressional control would have to be attributed to the Dems.

Read the post, the prosperity I attributed to neither Dem nor Repub, government had little to do with it, except maybe science and research grants made during the 70's and 80's, and even then, still very little to do with it. But, the balancing of the budget was the result of a republican congress and senate with Clinton getting the credit for not playing partisan games and signing off. I may care nothing for Clinton as a virtuous person, I may think very little of his foreign policy (talk to anybody involved with Russia and how Clinton did with that), but when it came to getting a republican legislature to work with a democratic executive, he did a very good job.

On an aside I don't care what particular sides say neo-con, whack job blabbering liberals, for all I care they can both go kiss my ass, and anyone who argues strictly along those lines can too, I prefer independent thinkers who can think about issues, not parties when it comes to actual debate on particular issues. I don't care what this or that group says (their prevailing logic), I care what you'll say. If it lines up with good reason, I'm in your boat, if I find fault, I'll stay in mine. Either way, let us not muck up true political or historical discussion with the lines parties want to draw or the media wants to draw. They're the only ones who need those lines, if they didn't exist papers wouldn't sell and people wouldn't donate so easily to this or that group, and when it comes to the media and politicians, only one thing drives them these days, money. So, screw the way the want us to talk about politics.