Middle east outcome

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How does 3000 compare to 40,000?

This is a cool site that's been tracking the number of civilian deaths since the US got involved in Iraq...

http://www.iraqbodycount.net/

Even if these "facts" were 100% correct, take a look at everything they count. These are all murders that have happened in Iraq. NOT deaths caused directly by Coalition Forces. The United States seems to be far more secure on the streets and just for 2003 and 2004 there were 32,719 homicides in the United States.

No matter what anyone says, neither US nor any other country are truly going to influence what happens in this area of the Middle East. In this part of the world, Muslims are born hating Jews and the state of Israel. And the same is bred into the Jews to hate the Muslims. No treaties or agreements are going to fix the situation. The only way for there to be true stabilization without a war is if Isreal were to give up all of her land completely and dissolve itself. However, Israel has the right to exist. It is their land. And no, I'm not referencing that to the old Isreal from biblical times, I am talking the recent 60's Israel. They took the land and now it is theirs. If this were to have happened as a Muslim state and not a Jewish state, there would have been no public outcry. There would not be hundreds and hundreds of "martyrs" every year to push and take back the motherland.

Isreal is definitely responding harshly to the kidnappings of its soldiers. But what if they hadn't responded like they are now? That would mean they would have to learn to accept their soldiers being kidnapped as a normal occurance. And honestly, if I were in the soldier's position, I would want my country to respond as Israel has.