SmokinDVM Ban Poll

**Loudpipes78** · 10-26-2006, 10:27 AM

Does it make you feel better trying to prove to everyone that you're right, even if you're making yourself look like a jack ass in the process?

At least you're doing better than GG and not following BPP to every thread he posts in and then adding a dickhead reply after.

I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm not saying they're right, same goes for the opposite, but y'all are just continuing to make yourselves look worse.

**Shelby07** · 10-26-2006, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by CoventryCat86

shelby, it's a good thing they had to pass "hate crime" legislation for people like you who think it's okay to hate Jewish people or African Americans because it's their "right" to and that's their "opinion."

I sat on this for quite some time and really tried not to answer, but this truly bothers me.

Bill, putting everything that has transpired aside, I am very concerned that I may have posted something that gave you this idea. I don't believe I did, but if so, I need to know about it. Did I post something that led you to the conclusion I am antisemitic, a bigot or homophobic?

**cigar no baka** · 10-26-2006, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by SmokinDVM

So now let me get this straight, it's still OK to post political content in the political forum, as long as others don't have a differing opinion, and express it on that thread, right?

As long as it's not controversial, I can post it?

Barry, I have no probem with you posting political content or your opinions, they are welcome here. All I'm asking is for you to keep some modicum of respect. As I said, we all fly off the handle once in a while, that's OK, but to do so every time you talk politics is over the top.

**cigar no baka** · 10-26-2006, 12:07 PM

Originally Posted by Shelby07

I have answered your question over and over. But let me try again. It doesn't bother me. So has the board gotten worse? better? stayed the same? Well now, I have seen this stuff come and go. It's current state is one of agitation. but it will go away. This is apparantly something you want to fight about. I am advocating that everyone just try to remember that you used to like each other for various reasons. That's all. I'm not getting into the fray here. I've stated over and over that I don't think anyone is an asshole. I am pointing out the futility of your (and others') attempt to win an unwinable argument. It doesn't bother me so for me there is nothing to take sides on. Does that answer your question, Bill?

Let me put it in a way that perhaps you might relate to...

It takes at least 2 to fight. Everybody shut the fuck up and see what happens.

My name is not Bill. Are you telling me to shut the fuck up or Bill.

Also, try to find even ONE political discussion I have started here. Double pinkie dare ya.

I don't come here to discuss politics. But when someone posts something about all Repugs being fucktard shitstain motherfucking cocksucking retards, isn't that a teeny weeny BIT over the top? Seem like a bit of a troll, agitator? Suppose you believed strongly in something, let's say for arguments sake you were a Catholic. And some troll came on saying that all shitstain fucktard motherfucking cocksucking retarded pedophiles that Catholics are. I'd be surpised if you just sat back and said nothing.

I'm not saying Barry is a troll, but his political posts are over the top and cause agitation, drawing people who he is insulting into the fray, which I readily jump into. But I don't start this shit, like I said, find even one thread I've started on politics here.

Peace out

**cigar no baka** · 10-26-2006, 12:18 PM

Originally Posted by bigpoppapuff

baka...you're turning into an idiot...you got here,at most,a month before me...and i assure you,i've provided far more in cigar posts than you have or will.
my "posse"???....i've brought a few people over.....who have you brought over??
if we're going popularity.....i'll put myself over you any day....why??....because i participate and make friends...so don't get in a pissing match with me....you'll lose....

i'm not leaving...as stated (which you didn't do,IIRC)this is my home board....you might consider leaving...i doubt if you'll be missed by many...

I'm not leaving either. If Barry stops posting his diatribes here, and you stop defending him blindly, this shit will stop. As for how many people I have brought here, my answer is "None that bring their political axes to grind and post profanity-laced hate-filled attacks against people he doesn't like".

Losing and winning is not what it's about. It's about community, and posting hate-filled shit is not enhancing this cigar community.

**cigar no baka** · 10-26-2006, 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by Loudpipes78

See this is why a politics forum can get dangerous, some people can get drawn into an all out war over something that has nothing to do with the main reason of being on the board.

I think everyone... let me say that again... EVERYONE.... needs to hush up and let this thread go. No side is going to prove the other wrong or change their views and to some varying degree both parties are wrong.

Are people really talking of leaving or trying to get someone else to leave over their political view... THAT IS FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

*AHEM*

Why caaaaaan't weeeeee alllllll jus' get alooooooong? [/Rodney King]

Baka... maybe you should stop and read your user text... seems a bit hypocritical at this point.

I'll stop when I'm ready. Read some of the things Barry posted in this forum and tell me if it was not over the top. Then get back to me OK?

**Shelby07** · 10-26-2006, 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by cigar no baka

My name is not Bill. Are you telling me to shut the fuck up or Bill.

Also, try to find even ONE political discussion I have started here. Double pinkie dare ya.

I don't come here to discuss politics. But when someone posts something about all Repugs being fucktard shitstain motherfucking cocksucking retards, isn't that a teeny weeny BIT over the top? Seem like a bit of a troll, agitator? Suppose you believed strongly in something, let's say for arguments sake you were a Catholic. And some troll came on saying that all shitstain fucktard motherfucking cocksucking retarded pedophiles that Catholics are. I'd be surpised if you just sat back and said nothing.

I'm not saying Barry is a troll, but his political posts are over the top and cause agitation, drawing people who he is insulting into the fray, which I readily jump into. But I don't start this shit, like I said, find even one thread I've started on politics here.

Peace out

I was talking to Bill. Sorry, I hit the reply button on the wrong post. CNB - I may have been critical of you at one time but no more. You have been reasonable. Sorry if you thought the post was directed at you.

**nhcigarfan** · 10-26-2006, 01:12 PM

See, that's how this playground should work.

**CoventryCat86** · 10-26-2006, 03:14 PM

Originally Posted by Shelby07

I sat on this for quite some time and really tried not to answer, but this truly bothers me.

Bill, putting everything that has transpired aside, I am very concerned that I may have posted something that gave you this idea. I don't believe I did, but if so, I need to know about it. Did I post something that led you to the conclusion I am antisemitic, a bigot or homophobic?

Gave me what idea?

I thought you "bowed out?"

**CoventryCat86** · 10-26-2006, 03:25 PM

Originally Posted by Loudpipes78

Does it make you feel better trying to prove to everyone that you're right, even if you're making yourself look like a jack ass in the process?

At least you're doing better than GG and not following BPP to every thread he posts in and then adding a dickhead reply after.

I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm not saying they're right, same goes for the opposite, but y'all are just continuing to make yourselves look worse.

I don't think I'm making myself look like a "jack ass" (by the way, I think you meant "jackass"). On the other hand, I think you're making yourself look like a jackass with your post here but that's just me.

loudpipe, I'm not trying to prove anything to anyone, this is a thread regarding whether or not Barry should be banned from this community. I think he should because of the reasons I've mentioned previously.

I won't be obnoxious like Barry and say "If you don't like it, don't read it" loudpipe, but first off, this is the "politics" forum and it's being used for the manner that it was set up for unlike the manner in which Barry uses this forum which is to spread hate. I'm sorry you don't like unpleasant conflicts but once again, the underlying issue here is Barry's nasty, rude, vulgar, offensive political posts and considering the type of person he is, any objections to his offensive behavior are going to be met with viciousness from Sid and him.

And you are making yourself look like a "jackass" with this statement:

At least you're doing better than GG and not following BPP to every thread he posts in and then adding a dickhead reply after.

You said "every" this is blatantly false. You owe ggiese an apology. I also take issue with your "dickhead" reply shit loudpipe. You sit there and whine about some of us looking like jackasses and in the SAME POST you engage in exactly the behavior at which you're objecting to.

You're fucked up.

**CoventryCat86** · 10-26-2006, 03:29 PM

Originally Posted by cigar no baka

My name is not Bill. Are you telling me to shut the fuck up or Bill.

Also, try to find even ONE political discussion I have started here. Double pinkie dare ya.

I don't come here to discuss politics. But when someone posts something about all Repugs being fucktard shitstain motherfucking cocksucking retards, isn't that a teeny weeny BIT over the top? Seem like a bit of a troll, agitator? Suppose you believed strongly in something, let's say for arguments sake you were a Catholic. And some troll came on saying that all shitstain fucktard motherfucking cocksucking retarded pedophiles that Catholics are. I'd be surpised if you just sat back and said nothing.

I'm not saying Barry is a troll, but his political posts are over the top and cause agitation, drawing people who he is insulting into the fray, which I readily jump into. But I don't start this shit, like I said, find even one thread I've started on politics here.

Peace out

He said "everybody shut the fuck up" so he at least meant both of us. I agree with you CNB, I'll stop when I'm ready to stop, not because loudpipe and shelly want me to.

**Loudpipes78** · 10-26-2006, 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by CoventryCat86

He said "everybody shut the fuck up" so he at least meant both of us. I agree with you CNB, I'll stop when I'm ready to stop, not because loudpipe and shelly want me to.

Feel free to keep making yourself look foolish while losing respect from some people on here, obviously you don't care, so feel free to continue.

I'm not going to

over it.

**CoventryCat86** · 10-26-2006, 03:58 PM

Originally Posted by Loudpipes78

Feel free to keep making yourself look foolish while losing respect from some people on here, obviously you don't care, so feel free to continue.

I'm not going to

over it.

Okay loudpipe, let's look back and review, I said this:

You sit there and whine about some of us looking like jackasses and in the SAME POST you engage in exactly the behavior at which you're objecting to.

and your response was to take another cheap shot at me.

You really should think about that again and look at your own behavior and stop worrying about mine.

You continue to prove you got enough of your own problems, okay?

By the way, I personally have no use for you so no, I don't care who you respect and who you don't.

**Loudpipes78** · 10-26-2006, 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by CoventryCat86

Okay loudpipe, let's look back and review, I said this:

and your response was to take another cheap shot at me.

You really should think about that again and look at your own behavior and stop worrying about mine.

You continue to prove you got enough of your own problems, okay?

By the way, I personally have no use for you so no, I don't care who you respect and who you don't.

Cheap shot... oh yeah... that was real mean of me to say you keep looking foolish and are losing respect. At this point I think it was actually more of a statement of FACT which you'd be quite unfamiliar with since the vast majority of what you have posted up has been opinion... actually quite biased opinion.

I attempted to make another serious thread about this general topic and well... it accomplished a couple people realizing how foolish they were making themselves look and got them to stop so I reached part of my goal.

You on the other hand just don't care, it's ME ME ME ME ME... and let me go cry a river because you have no use for me. I really don't have much use for you either, other than some schmoe (this you might actually be able to consider a cheap shot) to bicker with when I feel like it.

And I think this will about do it for me in this section of the board.

**Shelby07** · 10-26-2006, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by CoventryCat86

Gave me what idea?

I thought you "bowed out?"

Thank you. You've answered my question.

**ggiese** · 10-26-2006, 06:43 PM

Originally Posted by SmokinDVM

I only see three people here pissed at Sid, how many are pissed at you arrogant asses? CC, and gg, are so full of yourselves you can't even smell how bad your shit stinks.

A huge coup?

It's a fucking BB dumbass, get some perspective.

After looking at the last few posts by cc and gg, I'm going out and buying stock in aluminum... they gotta just about be ready to cover their houses in it.

What you see is what YOU see. I can understand that - it's from your perspective... It's a shame you're not seeing the whole picture, though - it really is pretty ugly. But please - keep wearing the rose colored glasses. They really do make things look prettier...

...oh, and I really want to know who's pissed at me, Barry - Sid keeps threatening a ban poll but he's not come through yet...

But, I know - you "won" the ban poll. Noone is pissed at you, are they? You can really tell alot by the votes, can't you...

**CoventryCat86** · 10-27-2006, 06:44 PM

SmokinDUM's profile on CigarRebellion (The board Sid started):

All about SmokinDVM

Joined: 03 Jun 2005
Total posts: 827
[5.39% of total / 1.62 posts per day]
Find all posts by SmokinDVM
Location:
Website: Visit poster's website
Occupation: Pissing off religious, right-wing, shit-for-brains. You know who you are.
Interests: See occupation.

Hmmm, interesting......

**nhcigarfan** · 10-27-2006, 11:03 PM

Originally Posted by CoventryCat86

SmokinDUM's profile on CigarRebellion (The board Sid started):

Hmmm, interesting......

Please elaborate.

**CoventryCat86** · 10-28-2006, 02:20 AM

Originally Posted by nhcigarfan

Please elaborate.

During one of my many telephone conversations with Sid, he told me he and UpStateMike started CigarRebellion when the people who run Herfer's Paradise went overboard with moderation, deleting posts, locking threads, etc. so they figured they's start a cigar board where there would be none of that crap.

Sid and I became acquainted with one another on the Island of the Misfit toys because larrynj was posting there and acting like the true asshole that he is and has always been. Sid then invited me to CigarRebellion which I thought was great because we had common ground in our dislike for larrynj.

Please correct me if I'm wrong Sid but that was my recollection of our conversations.

**ggiese** · 10-28-2006, 07:41 AM

Originally Posted by CoventryCat86

During one of my many telephone conversations with Sid, he told me he and UpStateMike started CigarRebellion when the people who run Herfer's Paradise went overboard with moderation, deleting posts, locking threads, etc. so they figured they's start a cigar board where there would be none of that crap.

Sid and I became acquainted with one another on the Island of the Misfit toys because larrynj was posting there and acting like the true asshole that he is and has always been. Sid then invited me to CigarRebellion which I thought was great because we had common ground in our dislike for larrynj.

Please correct me if I'm wrong Sid but that was my recollection of our conversations.

You're leaving some parts out, Bill. There was the issue with Sid at Herfer's Paradise where he was fighting with the site owner (ZeroZed) and was banned. Well - let's just say - Sid got his wings clipped.

Of course, Sid signed up as another person and continued to post...

I gotta say - it's really going to be difficult to reserect any posts at Herfer's Paradise which illustrate what happened. They have been deleted (one of the reasons I'm not really fond of posts being deleted or modified - you can't go back and see the history of a person). But clearly neither Sid nor Barry are posting at Herfer's Paradise or Cigar Rebellion any more - certainly not since April when they made this their NEW home board...

I sincerely hoped those two would have learned from previous mistakes and wanted to live ina community where others respect their cigar knowledge, and not believe this was an election for them to be leader. AGAIN... But, apparently not...