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    Quote Originally Posted by cls515 View Post
    I have wondered why God lets evil be.
    Read the last story in Isaac Asimov's "I, Robot" and that will be explained.
    End of line.

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    This is a pointless circular discussion. If you are a die-hard atheist, nothing is going to change your mind. If you are religious, nothing is going to change your mind. If you are somewhere inbetween, maybe something will change your mind. But this discussion is simply pointless as both sides see their side as being true, with no hope of ever agreeing with the other.

    I personally have faith. I always have and I hope I always will. I have never tried to convince an atheist as there is no point. And if an atheist tries to argue with me, I tell them my faith is firm, obviously so is theirs (atheism is a faith, actually) so why argue? It's pointless.

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    personally have faith. I always have and I hope I always will. I have never tried to convince an atheist as there is no point. And if an atheist tries to argue with me, I tell them my faith is firm, obviously so is theirs (atheism is a faith, actually) so why argue? It's pointless.
    i totally agree with this (surprised,baka???).....pretty much what i stated on another thread...if yours works for you,cool....if i believe mine works for me,cool.....don't try to sell me yours...i'll keep mine to myself.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by cigar no baka View Post
    This is a pointless circular discussion. If you are a die-hard atheist, nothing is going to change your mind. If you are religious, nothing is going to change your mind. If you are somewhere inbetween, maybe something will change your mind. But this discussion is simply pointless as both sides see their side as being true, with no hope of ever agreeing with the other.
    Wow, you could change the words "atheist" and "religious" with "Democrat" and "Republican" and pretty much have the same deal.

    At least with this thread, no one is name-calling

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    Quote Originally Posted by heftysmokes View Post
    Wow, you could change the words "atheist" and "religious" with "Democrat" and "Republican" and pretty much have the same deal.

    At least with this thread, no one is name-calling


    Excellent point. Pointless arguing between those diametrically opposed is pointless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cigar no baka View Post
    Excellent point. Pointless arguing between those diametrically opposed is pointless.


    So is baiting -- I don't use an avatar of a two-faced Christ in order to rile up my opponents in the religion debate, Baka.

    Nor do I use an avatar of W with a spear through his head. Although I think it would be an improvement.

    (Note to Dept. of Homeland Security investigators: The previous two sentences are a joke. I don't want to see W with a spear through his head. Twenty-five years from now, I want to read that W died in federal prison -- in total disgrace.)
    Last edited by ScoopKW; 11-06-2006 at 10:43 PM.

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    scoop.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScoopKW View Post
    So is baiting -- I don't use an avatar of a two-faced Christ in order to rile up my opponents in the religion debate, Baka.

    Nor do I use an avatar of W with a spear through his head. Although I think it would be an improvement.

    (Note to Dept. of Homeland Security investigators: The previous two sentences are a joke. I don't want to see W with a spear through his head. Twenty-five years from now, I want to read that W died in federal prison -- in total disgrace.)
    I didn't have an avatar of two-headed Carrie until the level of discourse here got ugly, then changed it. I don't complain about peoples avatars, it's a perfect way to express yourself, so if it bothers you, get over it. It's one thing to have an avatar expressing yourself, it's another to rant and rave about how much you hate anyone you disagree with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cigar no baka View Post
    I didn't have an avatar of two-headed Carrie until the level of discourse here got ugly, then changed it. I don't complain about peoples avatars, it's a perfect way to express yourself, so if it bothers you, get over it. It's one thing to have an avatar expressing yourself, it's another to rant and rave about how much you hate anyone you disagree with.
    1) It's K-E-R-R-Y

    2) It's been two full years! Don't you have better liberals to pick on?

    3) When did I ever say I hate you or anyone else? I pointed out that baiting the other side is just as pointless as dickering with them.



    4) And since it's a perfect way to express myself, enjoy my new avatar!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cigar no baka View Post
    This is a pointless circular discussion. If you are a die-hard atheist, nothing is going to change your mind. If you are religious, nothing is going to change your mind. If you are somewhere inbetween, maybe something will change your mind. But this discussion is simply pointless as both sides see their side as being true, with no hope of ever agreeing with the other.

    I personally have faith. I always have and I hope I always will. I have never tried to convince an atheist as there is no point. And if an atheist tries to argue with me, I tell them my faith is firm, obviously so is theirs (atheism is a faith, actually) so why argue? It's pointless.
    Atheism is neither religion nor faith, but the happy freedom from them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmokinDVM View Post
    Atheism is neither religion nor faith, but the happy freedom from them.
    Yes, atheism is a faith; i.e., the faith that there is no god nor will we ever prove there is one. I'm not getting dragged in to this, it's pointless.

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