hey bill...

[basil]

Barry, I would never have taken seriously a bet for dog rockets, "premium" or otherwise. Too much innuendo that only the speaker really gets. Who the hell knows what you really mean? That's a rhetorical question.

There was never a bet.

[nhcigarfan]

Barry, I would never have taken seriously a bet for dog rockets, "premium" or otherwise. Too much innuendo that only the speaker really gets. Who the hell knows what you really mean? That's a rhetorical question.

There was never a bet.

Agreed. If it had gone the other way Bill wouldn't be going on and on about it.

Know why?

There wasn't a bet.

[SmokinDVM]

Agreed. If it had gone the other way Bill wouldn't be going on and on about it.

Know why?

There wasn't a bet.

You really want to know why he wouldn't be going on about it?

Because I would have paid up.

[Hugh Jorgan]

So, I see cc, gg, and cnb now have a fourth for their circle jerk. How the hell are ya Hugh?

....All I see is four assholes making a big deal out of something that hasn't even happened.

SmokingDVM: We've never had any interaction of any sort on any forum and yet you label me an asshole ? Class act, Doc.

One of the FOGs wanna clue me in on this clown?

[SmokinDVM]

SmokingDVM: We've never had any interaction of any sort on any forum and yet you label me an asshole ? Class act, Doc.

One of the FOGs wanna clue me in on this clown?

Now george, you know all about me, you've said so in many other posts.

Anyone want to explain to me why hugh here gets to use an animated avatar showing a simulated sex act between 2 stuffed dolls? Wasn't that sort of thing frowned upon, and a couple of members told to change theirs, just a little while back?
Someone as virtuous as george claims to be, shouldn't be displaying such crap.

[WhiteWidow]

yall quit getting all butt hurt

[ggiese]

Now george, you know all about me, you've said so in many other posts.

Anyone want to explain to me why hugh here gets to use an animated avatar showing a simulated sex act between 2 stuffed dolls? Wasn't that sort of thing frowned upon, and a couple of members told to change theirs, just a little while back?
Someone as virtuous as george claims to be, shouldn't be displaying such crap.

There ya go again "assuming", Barry - are you absolutely SURE I'm Hugh?

(BTW - I'll give you a free clue - Hugh was here way before you and Sid were here... You gotta buy any additional clues in the future... )

[basil]

SmokingDVM: We've never had any interaction of any sort on any forum and yet you label me an asshole ? Class act, Doc.

One of the FOGs wanna clue me in on this clown?

Well, I'm no FOG, but, SDVM is a guy who is of above-average intelligence, generous with his DVM knowledge, frequently trolls, and of course, smokes cigars.

Regarding his IQ though, he is often too clever by half. Regarding his generosity and trolling, the former is probably one of the reasons the latter has been tolerated for so damn long. I myself have been the recipient of this generosity, and find that I struggle between gratitude and personal integrity when it comes to Barry. I'm afraid that as long as I don't speculate about his motives, which are none of my business, I'll continue to struggle.

He is a self-acclaimed atheist, mistakenly thinking he is somehow "without religion". He's about as fundamentalist as anyone I've heard in awhile.

He's pretty damn current on politics though, and would have something to say about viable liberal positions, but his messages get lost in malicious vileness.

BPP supports him unconditionally. Which is a fucking mystery to me. And since BPP is like a cigar encyclopedia (actually, he's more like a cigar search engine), and since he's in the habit of leghumping newbies who agree with or admire him (in a grandfatherly kind of way), then SDVM enjoys some asylum (in a parasitic kind of way).

There's recently been some heated exchanges mainly with these two on one side, and George and CC on the other, with most of the regulars remaining neutral. My respect for the two in the instant though has begun to crack.

[bigpoppapuff]

BPP supports him unconditionally. Which is a fucking mystery to me. And since BPP is like a cigar encyclopedia (actually, he's more like a cigar search engine), and since he's in the habit of leghumping newbies who agree with or admire him (in a grandfatherly kind of way), then SDVM enjoys some asylum (in a parasitic kind of way).

after 15 years in the cigar industry,i know a little bit...i'll tell you what,ted...you answer the questions of the newbies...i'm hardly leg-humping the newbs.....you also,can fuck yourself..

[basil]

Cool. Just callin' it like I see it. Hope everything works out for you.

[SmokinDVM]

He is a self-acclaimed atheist, mistakenly thinking he is somehow "without religion". He's about as fundamentalist as anyone I've heard in awhile.

Religion is a crutch the weak use to protect themselves from having to take responsibility for their actions and lives.

"Atheism is religion." When you hear a statement like this, it often comes form a person who has actually done little research or thinking about either Atheism or religion. Most people rarely study or investigate their own religious beliefs, assuming they have any. If they are born in a predominately Christian, or Muslim, or Hindu, or Jewish culture, they will probably reflect the religious beliefs of that society.

Nearly every dictionary will define religion as "belief in a divine or superhuman power or powers to be obeyed a worshipped as the creator(s) and ruler(s) of the universe. The definition of all other terms linked to religion employ much the same language -- church, monastery, priest. They are all part of a religious-language universe or "game" that has little to do with Atheism.

There cannot be an Atheist "Church", or an Atheist "priest" anymore than there could be an Atheist "god."

http://www.atheists.org/faqs/atheism.html

[basil]

Religion is a crutch the weak use to protect themselves from having to take responsibility for their actions and lives. http://www.atheists.org/faqs/atheism.html

"Often comes from . . ." being operative. Ok, look atheism is just like religion in that it requires dogmatic definition (as you've conveniently and at least partially provided here), parameters (those of your own awareness, acknowledgement, and importantly, alignment with others), and defense (again, thanks). I mean, atheism, like religion, isn't exactly stand alone now, is it? Like rather, a tree, or a drink of water would be?

At any rate, doesn't it seem ridiculous to expect me to accept as objective an explanation of what atheism is and what it ain't from a site of, for, and about atheists?

That'd be like me telling you that baptism is for real and is your salvation, Barry, because I'm a Baptist and it says so on the fucking Baptist website. Fundamentalist.

[SmokinDVM]

Barry, I would never have taken seriously a bet for dog rockets, "premium" or otherwise. Too much innuendo that only the speaker really gets. Who the hell knows what you really mean? That's a rhetorical question.

There was never a bet.

He made a bet for ANYTHING, I accepted.
No matter what you think, I have NEVER sent ANYONE dog rockets. Hell, I don't even have any in my house.
There was as much of a bet between bill and me, as between bill and Sid, he just chose to ignore ours.

Bill's a POS. I would caution anyone making any kind of deal with him.

[cinda]

Bill's a PPS. I would caution anyone making any kind of deal with him.

What I can not believe is the regular people on this board, the old timers would let this statement go without even so much as a "your way off on this one Barry". I bet CC has never had a complaint about a pass or lack of coming through on a bet. I mean as mad as you all are acting right now I doubt BPP would say that CC has not up held his end in a pass, or a bet, or has a reputation for that behavior. Barry there was not a genuine bet because you two could not act civilized enough to get to that point, because you two were too busy one upping the other in slanderous name calling.

[CoventryCat86]

Barry's comments about a bet that he was never serious about are irrelevant to this thread. This thread is about SID and his threatened scumbaggery. Let's review the first post in the thread started by Sid:

your winning have been packaged since the election was over...there are plenty of bonus sticks.....for every post where you stalk me,i'm going to add a day before i send it....i don't need to be reminded or stalked.
keep fucking with me and you'll get a dried out package......back the fuck off!!!

Barry being the piece of shit that he is keeps trying to bring the matter at hand (Sid's scumbaggery) "off topic" which he does constantly on this board as does Sid. When they are wrong, they pull the "Scotty" move and lie, change the subject, attack on another front, etc.

You two losers can just forget it, Sid started this thread with an extremely bad message and got himself in quite a bit of trouble. He now realized that he should have never done this and claims he will send the cigars out tomorrow. My guess is he will BUT Sid, don't you think you owe me and this board an apology for your first post here?

Face it you DO and once again, you and that piece of shit Barry never even consider that you two ever do anything wrong.

You two really are a black mark on this site and you should clean up your acts before you do yourselves even more harm.

[SmokinDVM]

Barry's comments about a bet that he was never serious about are irrelevant to this thread. This thread is about SID and his threatened scumbaggery.

So you can read minds now too, well good for you Kreskin.

You haven't even recieved bpp's package, so you don't have any reason to get your panties all in a bunch.
You have reneged on a bet, no matter how many supporters you try to recruit, that will remain a fact. You made the bet, I accepted TWICE. The only scumbag I see is you billy boy.

Talk about a black mark, I don't know whether to call you The Amazing Kreskin, or stonydell.

[CoventryCat86]

So you can read minds now too, well good for you Kreskin.

You haven't even recieved bpp's package, so you don't have any reason to get your panties all in a bunch.
You have reneged on a bet, no matter how many supporters you try to recruit, that will remain a fact. You made the bet, I accepted TWICE. The only scumbag I see is you billy boy.

Talk about a black mark, I don't know whether to call you The Amazing Kreskin, or stonydell.

You just can't give it up can you? You and your asswiper sid are the only two who concluded we had a bet. We clearly did not because you're too much of an uncivilized asshole to agree to the terms of a bet with.

On the other hand everyone here has every reason to think poorly of sid when he threatened to ruin the cigars he owes me for losing a bet which is the subject of this thread and your continued attempts to bring the discussion "off topic" only prove my point that you're nothing but a worthless piece of shit.

Keep it up barry, no one's listening to you anymore.......

[SmokinDVM]

You just can't give it up can you? You and your asswiper sid are the only two who concluded we had a bet. We clearly did not because you're too much of an uncivilized asshole to agree to the terms of a bet with.

On the other hand everyone here has every reason to think poorly of sid when he threatened to ruin the cigars he owes me for losing a bet which is the subject of this thread and your continued attempts to bring the discussion "off topic" only prove my point that you're nothing but a worthless piece of shit.

Keep it up barry, no one's listening to you anymore.......

A renege is a renege. No matter how you try to cover your stink, you can't, it's penetrated you completely. Hey, that's just like a piece of shit. You should just start going by stonydell all the time, no one would know the difference.

[nhcigarfan]

What I can not believe is the regaler people on this board, the old timers would let this statement go without even so much as a "your way off on this one Barry". I bet CC has never had a complaint about a pass or lack of coming through on a bet. I mean as mad as you all are acting right now I dout BPP would say that CC has not up held his end in a pass, or a bet, or has a reputation for that behavior. Barry there was not a genuine bet because you two could not act civilized enough to get to that point, because you two were too busy one upping the other in slanderous name calling.

I missed that.

[ggiese]

What are you talking about?? Barry says there was a bet - so DAMN IT - it's a BET!!! And of course Bill is a "StoneyDell" because he made a bet and never came through... But I didn't know StoneyDell was into making "bets" he never came through with...

Which brings up another good point. Barry - Why don't you tell everyone on this board who StoneyDell is. I've forgotten most of what StoneyDell has done, but StoneyDell is a scumbag, isn't he?? I mean - you tossed StoneyDell's name out there and are saying Bill is him. Maybe you should educate everyone as to who he is... I mean - Bill is StoneyDell, isn't he??? Right???