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    1pm I get a TM "On my way home"

    Comes in and drops the bombs like
    It's not going to work.
    It's him not you.
    I choose him not you.
    I love him not you.
    I haven't loved you for over a year and half.
    You are a best friend and a roomate to me, not a romantic interest.

    I keep my composure and ask why she is trying to rile me up, she says she isn't. I tell her that I am still going to be even and calm but obviously it's over. I ask her if she is going to divorce me, no response. I ask again, refer to the above points, and she says she will but has no clue where to start. I tell her I have to know if there was anything I could have done to save the marriage, she assures me there wasn't that it was solely her fault. "Now that I know it's over, I have to know did you fuck him."

    Yes I did.
    Then you lied when I asked Sunday.
    No, we had sex for the first time last night.
    I knew you did, I knew you had to try it, to see if you were compatible there, too. I knew as soon as you left that you were going to because you hadn't yet. You know what, you could have come home, said you fucked up, admitted to fucking him last night, and I still would have been willing to forgive and work hard to make this marriage a success again.


    I ask her one final time, "This is it, you're sure we're done." Yes.

    Ok...
    You can't stay here anymore.
    We need to split up our assets.
    What do you feel you deserve? Nothing
    I need your house key.
    I need your wedding and engagement ring.
    I need you off our lease.
    I need you to cooperate with the divorce.
    I need you off my bank accounts, etc
    I ask her when she can move out, she says Saturday morning.
    I tell her she can't stay here Friday night

    She's fine with all of it but makes no move to call the person with the room. I call my leasing office and bank; find out its 2 short forms to get her removed if she comes in with me. So we go. She signs off. I write up a list about everything else.

    She gets ready for work gets her stuff together for the night and leaves telling me she'll be back at 9am to get her stuff.

    With in the first 5 minutes of walking in Saturday she is sobbing uncontrollably and mumbles "I don't want to go, I want to make this work."

    I am stunned, all I've wanted to hear all week, all these chances, and she does it now. I ask her why

    "I love you"

    You didn't say that yesterday, in fact, you specifically said you didn't

    "I don't want to spend the rest of my life without you."

    I tell her that I'm sorry and that it's no longer an option, she had her chance. The next 3 hours she packed while balling uncontrollably. When she comes back from the first trip she doesn't cry at all. Before the final trip to the car of the day (still has some random stuff here) she grabs me and hugs me tight crying uncontrollably, I do the same. We finally break away and she compose herself, starts crying again, grabs me kisses me, and then leaves.

    We haven't spoken since but had agreed that Wednesday we'll be dealing with hopefully 60% of the remaining 70-80% of what's left.

    She says she wants nothing at all from me and so far has proven it.
    We have no combined credit cards, no kids, don't own a home.
    Divorce lawyers would cost more than what our assets are worth
    She'll give me an uncontested divorce.
    All of our friends have shut her out because of what she has done
    Her Mom is furious with her and won't help her with anything right now either
    She left here with clothes, random stuff, the dog (insistent about that and it really is 'hers' even though I love her to pieces. No furniture, nothing. I was nice enough to give her the old TV and the new DVD player (a cheap one) from the bedroom as well as the old love seat (even though right now it seems she has no way to get it since our friends with trucks are not speaking to her.)



    So there it is... basically the last week of my life.

    She threw it ALL away while I was willing to try to save it the whole time.


    I'm sure there is a bunch I missed but I really don't feel like revising it all at the moment.
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    Wow, just wow. Really sorry to hear that man.

    Sounds like it was for the best. Hopefully everything goes smoothly and you can go back to living life. Good luck with everything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drew_goring View Post
    Wow, just wow. Really sorry to hear that man.

    Sounds like it was for the best. Hopefully everything goes smoothly and you can go back to living life. Good luck with everything.

    Thanks.

    In the long run it will be for the best, for me at least, just right now the pain and everything else is really fresh.

    I'm lucky I have a great group of friends around that is supporting me through this and helping me move on in any way that they can.

    The only place I can go from here is up. I know I can make it on my own with no problem because there has been some stretches over the last 6 years that I've had to be the one to get BOTH of us by.

    One thing I know for sure, I gave it everything I had, and then some.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loudpipes78 View Post
    One thing I know for sure, I gave it everything I had, and then some.
    This is a pretty important statement. As long as you know this, you get to walk away with no regrets.
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    Goddamn bro.

    Mike, I'm pretty sure that only in the movies do these kind of things work out. All her confusion about what she really wants is 100% BS. All those "I don't knows" are too. She damn well does know, and using that statement is crap. Of course she doesn't know who she wants; she is very, very sure about one thing: she does not want to commit. And she knows why too. It doesn't matter though, to anyone but her. And really, it's none of your business.

    Flip that girl a quarter (35, now I guess) and tell her to call you when she grows up. In the meantime, do whatever you need to do for 1) a clean break, and 2) to get past this in a way that you have really let it go (whether or not she has is completely beside the point) so you can get on with your life.

    It might not seem like it now, but all this drama won't be as important after some time has passed.

    Life is too short for this kind of brain damage. I won't say good luck, because it ain't about luck. It's about how you choose to move forward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by basil View Post
    Goddamn bro.

    Mike, I'm pretty sure that only in the movies do these kind of things work out. All her confusion about what she really wants is 100% BS. All those "I don't knows" are too. She damn well does know, and using that statement is crap. Of course she doesn't know who she wants; she is very, very sure about one thing: she does not want to commit. And she knows why too. It doesn't matter though, to anyone but her. And really, it's none of your business.

    Flip that girl a quarter (35, now I guess) and tell her to call you when she grows up. In the meantime, do whatever you need to do for 1) a clean break, and 2) to get past this in a way that you have really let it go (whether or not she has is completely beside the point) so you can get on with your life.

    It might not seem like it now, but all this drama won't be as important after some time has passed.

    Life is too short for this kind of brain damage. I won't say good luck, because it ain't about luck. It's about how you choose to move forward.

    It will never "work out" now, I decided 100% yesterday there is no chance EVER things will turn around. It might be hard for me at times but she will be out of my like completely and I'll move on. I keep hearing from people that she is/was definitely confused but what you said.... DEAD FUCKING ON! Wow! "she is very, very sure about one thing: she does not want to commit. And she knows why too."

    My best friend's Dad that helped me make my own decisions about all this (didn't tell me what to do or even what he would do) said the same shit. He's 51 and he said in 5-10 years when I'm in my 30s I'll look back and realize this was just a bump in the road of life.

    Well so far any moving forward is and will continue to be on the high road. I will not try to hurt her like she did me even though a small part of me wants to. I wish her nothing but the best and I know karma will be around at some point to give her what she deserves.


    Quote Originally Posted by basil View Post
    This is a pretty important statement. As long as you know this, you get to walk away with no regrets.
    It's the one thing I'm sure of in all of this and hopefully you're right so far it has made it easier because not one person I have talked to would have even given her a shot after hearing on Sunday "I love him."
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    One other thing. You may have heard this already, but a divorce is a kind of death - the death of the relationship. And regardless of how much it needed to happen, it still takes a while to grieve, and move on. Important: Eat right, get plenty of rest, attend to your responsibilities, spend time with friends. Suit up, show up, and keep it simple.
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    Sorry to hear about that. Ive never been through it in your case, but i just recently found out that the girl i was with on and off for 7 years was cheating on me too. Sorry, but in my book, once they cheat, its over. No more "We can make this work" stuff, its just over. If I cant trust someone, theres no way I want to live like that. I know you probably love her still because thats how I am with my ex, but nothing can fix cheating.

    Good luck with everything else.
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    I didn't read your post.divorced in 93' here after 11 years my sons are 22 and 20 the bitch cheated on me and then left me... I kept the house she re- married and then cheated on him and got her 2nd divorce after 7 years and now she is going on her 3rd. BTW I still pay $165 a week in support because NYS. you pay untill 21.The thing that is getting me through this is...rum,bourbon and cigars and these BB's...hang in there bro'.
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    sorry to read this loudpipes. Good luck with everything, hopefully it'll be a clean legal matter as you two are young and don't have kids.

    Basil's advice is right on.
    "If you look for truth, you may find comfort in the end; if you look for comfort you will not get either comfort or truth only soft soap and wishful thinking to begin, and in the end, despair." -C.S. Lewis, Mere Christianity

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    Damn sorry to hear this Loudpipes!! It will get better though, from my experience:
    1. came home one night, locks changed, clothes on the porch
    2. had 37 cents in my pocket
    3. went to the ATM.....empty
    4. had to live with parents
    5. got raped in the divorce
    6. spent 16 years paying child support
    7. met a GOOD woman
    8. have been married to her for 15 years
    9. she loves me
    10. I love her

    LIFE IS GOOD!! Even better because:
    1. The EX has had 13 different guys in this time
    2. Youngest daughter has a protection order against her and wants nothing to do with her
    3. She is alone and lonely
    4. she has gained 100 lbs since the divorce
    5. She can't hold a job
    6. I don't have to pay for it anymore.

    Moral of this story.......Karma gives the best smack-down of all. Keep your head up and know that you made the best effort possible, and have held the high-ground through the whole deal. The pay-back she has coming will get there eventually, and you won't have to do a thing!!

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    Thanks all.... sitting here at my office for the first time since Thursday morning when I thought I still had a chance and it's kind of rough. I've been with my company for 4.5 years and we're like family here so it's going to be hard to tell everyone.

    As of now I have no intention to move but if I do the updated address will be posted, luckily I am in a spot where I can sustain myself.

    Roham, I'll definitely check out plentyoffish.com but not yet, I am not taking any chances by doing something... ur... someone... stupid until the divorce is final, it's just not worth the risk.

    Roham and Baron Porthos, I appreciate the offer, and who knows, I may take you up on it at some point. Right now I have South Florida (Mom) and Tampa (Guado) in my immediate future but it's hard to say what I'll need or want after the first of the year. My best friend (like a lil' brother to me) and I are talking about 4 days in Las Vegas. "Vegas baby... VEGAS!!!!!" [/Swingers]

    dHutch, the comment "drive on" made me smirk, the Montgomery Gentry song Speed has been playing a ton the last day or so and thanks in advance for the care package.

    Basil, I made the death analogy myself yesterday morning for the first time, pondered out loud if work would give me "bereavement." I also really need to focus on sleeping enough and eating right because so far I've been bad about it but I recognized it was a problem Saturday and have already been working on correcting it.

    My friends and family have been amazing so far and I know they will continue to be. The offers to go do something, get away, come take a trip, just talk etc, etc have been flowing in.




    I fired up an RP OWR Friday night when I was having a couple beers with my friends, talking over everything, and it was such a great smoke. I've been holding the OWRs back for something special and I figured the restart of my life as an individual definitely called for it.


    I am not going anywhere and updates will follow. Being able to write about this has been a big help already.



    Thanks again everyone.
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    it drains me to read this. man, i am so sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chefchris View Post
    it drains me to read this. man, i am so sorry.
    wow, me too.

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    I think someone already said it best...."wow." Drive on, beat the pain and you will soon be much happier than you were before. It will be tough, but that's what friends and family are for .

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    Definitely time to move on. Don't look back. And when you are ready, start dating again. It will help get your mind off her. You are young and there are plenty of fish out there... Actually go to plentyoffish.com and fill out a profile, it's totaly free and it'll help get your mind off the current events.
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    That is some shit. Glad you were able to see it clearly. Sounds like you made the right decision. Let me know if you are getting out of town for a few days. The Milwaukee area sucks this time of year but for a day or two there are enough cigar lounges to visit.


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    Really sorry to hear this. Take it from someone who thought she could change and made the mistake of taking her back. They can't. You made the right choice. If you need to get away my door is always open. Time will heal
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