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    Quote Originally Posted by SFG75
    No, I wasn't wrong at all. The Torano website doesn't even include the word "gold"

    http://www.toranocigars.com/cigars.asp

    It just says "Torano Exodus 1959" & "Exodus silver edition"

    Now I fully understand that others do make that distinction, hey, that's fine. The main point of this is that I made no mistake in titling the review whatsoever. Why?, because if I'm wrong, then the company is wrong. I suppose that you and cc would maintain that the Toranos have no idea how to properly name their cigars?

    Your relationship to cc does matter, it proves that you are biased and that your opinion is heavily swayed by your association with him. You'd be saying the same thing if PB and Zac came over here and had my back in this argument. You are arguing against people who have no clue about me and who have independently made up their own minds on this thread. They haven't associated with me on other boards, thus, they are truly independent people in this dispute. I suppose you and bk could go ahead and vote in this one-but it would really not be an accurate depiction of how things truly are. For as you are members here, you are not unbiased members here.
    The Torano website says one thing but many other cigar retailers list them very differently, most notably specifying "Gold" just to make sure dummies like me and the other half of the cigar world know which one's are being talked about.

    Regarding the part of Scotty's post that I have in bold, Scotty, you have no right drawing a conclusion like that and you know it. The fact that we casually know each other from another board has absolutely no bearing on his opinions nad are you REALLY stupid enough to think that anyone will believe your bullshit? I mean c'mon Scotty, get a grip on reality please. Hell I know you a whole lot more than I know George and unfortunately I know you well enough to say with certainty that you are a useless POS.

    Once again you are only proving to everyone here to be the true asshole that I maintain you are, please keep it up, again you only drive my point home with your shitty attitude and posts, just like on CigarPass

    AnD yes, you were WRONG, just face it but again, in your little world you are never wrong now are you? You still wanna maintain you were not wrong about anything you did on CigarPass or how you mistreated people on the Island of the Misfit Toys? What I have witnessed from you over and over again is a repeated pattern of your pigheadedness and smugness and complete refusal to ever admit you might be anything less than "F-L-A-W-L-E-S-S"

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoventryCat86
    The Torano website says one thing but many other cigar retailers list them very differently, most notably specifying "Gold"
    However, that still doesn't negate the fact that I labeled the review correctly. You know how to label cigars and the Toranos do not? They are not mindful of things like confusing consumers?

    Once again you are only proving to everyone here to be the true asshole that I maintain you are, please keep it up, again you only drive my point home with your shitty attitude and posts, just like on CigarPass
    Switching the topic once again in a valiant effort to not answer any of the posted questions- still looking for an answer, though I doubt you'll answer them.

    AnD yes, you were WRONG, just face it but again, in your little world you are never wrong now are you?
    If I'm wrong, then the Toranos are wrong, and I doubt thats the case.

    You still wanna maintain you were not wrong about anything you did on CigarPass or how you mistreated people on the Island of the Misfit Toys? What I have witnessed from you over and over again is a repeated pattern of your pigheadedness and smugness and complete refusal to ever admit you might be anything less than "F-L-A-W-L-E-S-S"
    Still trying to switch the debate when the main one can't be settled to your liking. Sorry, you won't get me on the emotional hooks of name calling and site bashing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SFG75
    However, that still doesn't negate the fact that I labeled the review correctly. You know how to label cigars and the Toranos do not? They are not mindful of things like confusing consumers?



    Switching the topic once again in a valiant effort to not answer any of the posted questions- still looking for an answer, though I doubt you'll answer them.



    If I'm wrong, then the Toranos are wrong, and I doubt thats the case.



    Still trying to switch the debate when the main one can't be settled to your liking. Sorry, you won't get me on the emotional hooks of name calling and site bashing.

    Answer to WHAT question? Speaking of answers to questions, you're famous for this. How many times have I asked you to back up the lies you posted when you tried to convince us all that your brother in law is the first guy to stand up and say something rather than avoid confrontation. I've asked you this on numerous occasions but you never answer the question.

    Quite honestly, in all your bullshit, I'm at a loss as to what "questions" you are still looking for an answer to so please ask them again and I will answer them only after you provide examples backing up your claim that Randy IS NOT one to avoid controversy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoventryCat86
    Answer to WHAT question? Speaking of answers to questions, you're famous for this. How many times have I asked you to back up the lies you posted when you tried to convince us all that your brother in law is the first guy to stand up and say something rather than avoid confrontation. I've asked you this on numerous occasions but you never answer the question.

    Quite honestly, in all your bullshit, I'm at a loss as to what "questions" you are still looking for an answer to so please ask them again and I will answer them only after you provide examples backing up your claim that Randy IS NOT one to avoid controversy.
    Switching the topic yet again. You know darn well that my titling of the review was correct. If a person didn't know the difference, all they had to do was ask. It's the same when one doesn't know what BOTL or ISOM means. You ask and then you pick up the lingo. At least, that's what I learned. Once again, I'm using the Torano site to reference the cigars. That is the proper usage as a descriptor for the cigar in question. Re-read Hex's posts about it, it's clear for all to see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SFG75
    Switching the topic yet again. You know darn well that my titling of the review was correct. If a person didn't know the difference, all they had to do was ask. It's the same when one doesn't know what BOTL or ISOM means. You ask and then you pick up the lingo. At least, that's what I learned. Once again, I'm using the Torano site to reference the cigars. That is the proper usage as a descriptor for the cigar in question. Re-read Hex's posts about it, it's clear for all to see.
    I'm not switching the topic you asshole, YOU are. You said I'm not answering your "questions" and asked you to please post exactly WHAT questions you've asked that you claim I have not answered and the fact that you posted a lie about your brother in law and when I ask you to elaborate, you completely ignore me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoventryCat86
    I'm not switching the topic you asshole, YOU are. You said I'm not answering your "questions" and asked you to please post exactly WHAT questions you've asked that you claim I have not answered and the fact that you posted a lie about your brother in law and when I ask you to elaborate, you completely ignore me.
    Here they are Bill, from a few pages ago when you referred to me as "delusional."

    here are the questions:

    1.)Hex "got it." He offered to do a box-split with anyone and posted this link : http://www.caminoviejo.com/store/ca...exodus-1959.htm Take a wild guess as to which cigar he knew I was referring to. Go ahead, take a guess......

    i did assume it was the gold one because thats all i knew existed.
    2.)Does Drake say that it is the gold or silver that he assumed I was talking about?

    If the gold is the only one he assumed that existed, how does prove that he thought it was another cigar?

    3.)Does Jaewing in his posts ever indicate that he thought I was talking about the silver?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SFG75
    here are the questions:

    1.)Hex "got it." He offered to do a box-split with anyone and posted this link : http://www.caminoviejo.com/store/ca...exodus-1959.htm Take a wild guess as to which cigar he knew I was referring to. Go ahead, take a guess......


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    i did assume it was the gold one because thats all i knew existed.


    2.)Does Drake say that it is the gold or silver that he assumed I was talking about?

    If the gold is the only one he assumed that existed, how does prove that he thought it was another cigar?

    3.)Does Jaewing in his posts ever indicate that he thought I was talking about the silver?
    Again, are you going to give me an answer to my question?

    You first.......

    Actually no, I tell ya what, I'll address your "questions"
    1. Hex knew because he owns a small cigar retail operation that offers only a few lines of cigars where Carlos Torano is one of them. It's kind of like asking me a question about Jaguars where I will know more than 99.99% of the general population so of course he knew.
    2. Drake knew AFTER reading the thread where Hex made the distinction that you did not so this is a moot point.
    3. jaewing also knew AFTER reading the thread where Hex made the distinction so this is also a moot point.

    Once again, puff's poll and other posts here show that others were also not clear on which cigar you were talking about until I pointed this out.
    Last edited by CoventryCat86; 05-17-2005 at 05:55 PM.

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    Let's make it simple Scotty, you posted this:
    Switching the topic once again in a valiant effort to not answer any of the posted questions- still looking for an answer, though I doubt you'll answer them.
    Now for the THIRD time, I respond with:

    WHAT questions?

    which I will gladly answer once you give me an answer to my question as to why you misrepresented Randy by saying he'd be the first one to stand up and say something (when you put a completely damaged cigar in his pass) when I maintain that he would be the LAST person to stand up and say something because he doesn't want to start a family feud over a stupid cigar.

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