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    It doesn't prove your point. The tobacco blend used in every single Hemingway is the same. The proportions of each particular tobacco, in the blend, is slightly different in each size.

    I think you're misusing the word "blend" as it's used in cigar terms. Blend is the combination of tobaccos used in the filler of a cigar. Every single line of cigars has the same blend of tobacco within that line. The proportions vary in each size of that line, but the blend is the same. i.e. every single A.F. Hemingway cigar has the same blend used in them, every single Don Lino Africa cigar has the same blend used in them, so on and so forth.

    All A.F. Hemingways are "true" Hemingways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by logan37 View Post
    It doesn't prove your point. The tobacco blend used in every single Hemingway is the same. The proportions of each particular tobacco, in the blend, is slightly different in each size.

    I think you're misusing the word "blend" as it's used in cigar terms. Blend is the combination of tobaccos used in the filler of a cigar. Every single line of cigars has the same blend of tobacco within that line. The proportions vary in each size of that line, but the blend is the same. i.e. every single A.F. Hemingway cigar has the same blend used in them, every single Don Lino Africa cigar has the same blend used in them, so on and so forth.

    All A.F. Hemingways are "true" Hemingways.
    I see that's where we're having some confusion. I'm using the term "blend" as it pertains to cooking because I'm a hobby-chef. Regardless, that doesn't change the fact that a Short Story's filler has a different taste to it. As far as the "true Hemingway" comment, I'm just posting what I've read.

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    And people still wonder why I hate fucking retarded newbies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kevin7 View Post
    And people still wonder why I hate fucking retarded newbies.
    I believe they now prefer to be called "Informationally Challenged Newcomers"
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigwhiteash View Post
    I believe they now prefer to be called "Informationally Challenged Newcomers"
    Aren't newbies informationally-challenged by definition? I prefer to think of myself as a search-challenged newbie .

    Speaking of which - Dan, I was wondering - at some point, could you please collate and share with us a summary of the responses from the various forums that you've posted this question in? I'd be interested in the consensus. Thanks in advance!
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    Quote Originally Posted by craig View Post
    Speaking of which - Dan, I was wondering - at some point, could you please collate and share with us a summary of the responses from the various forums that you've posted this question in? I'd be interested in the consensus. Thanks in advance!
    Sure, there was a few people here that suggested the LFD Cameroon:
    http://www.cigarpass.com/forums/inde...=0#entry802941

    And here, there were more people agreeing on the Don Carlos line:
    http://www.cigarlive.com/forum/showt...194#post450194

    Same exact post and question, different forums so I could receive different responses to remove some bias factors that would have otherwise effected the range of answers had I only asked one forum.

    EDIT: Seems like the second link didn't copy when I pressed ctrl+c
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan View Post
    Sure, there was a few people here that suggested the LFD Cameroon:
    http://www.cigarpass.com/forums/inde...=0#entry802941

    And here, there were more people agreeing on the Don Carlos line:
    http://www.cigarlive.com/forum/showt...194#post450194

    Same exact post and question, different forums so I could receive different responses to remove some bias factors that would have otherwise effected the range of answers had I only asked one forum.

    EDIT: Seems like the second link didn't copy when I pressed ctrl+c
    You forgot Puff.com !?!?!?!?!?! That's your one stop shop for all things cigar. Plenty of "informative" members over there. And you won't have to worry about getting flamed for not knowing what you're talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevin7 View Post
    And people still wonder why I hate fucking retarded newbies.
    Its getting clearer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevin7 View Post
    And people still wonder why I hate fucking retarded newbies.

    EDIT: I'm going to actually apologize for acting ungentlemanly with this post, whether it was justifiable or not. I don't appreciate being mocked, (be it directly or indirectly) and I certainly don't like being told I'm wrong about something when I'm not, especially when I've received the information in question from a primary source, (http://www.cigaraficionado.com/Cigar...47,251,00.html)

    If you feel the need to read the original post, it's on the following page.
    Last edited by Dan; 01-27-2009 at 02:13 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan View Post
    How cute it's an internet tough guy.

    What makes me anger you so much? The fact that I used the word blend how it is generally used in English speaking countries? Or because I insist that the filler in a Short Story tastes different then the fillers of other Hemingways? I've been cooking and smoking pipe tobacco probably longer then you've been alive, so I think I can distinguish between two different tastes, if you don't believe me, try the two fillers yourself from a pipe.

    Or do you just have a lot of built up anger from being insulted on the internet? I'm sorry that I have better things to do then post hundreds of messages on an internet message board.
    This is a straight up stupid post to make. I think you've gotten the last bit of useful cigar information you're likely to get here. Enjoy the remainder of your stay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevin7 View Post
    And people still wonder why I hate fucking retarded newbies.
    Don't see any mention of your name in that post Dan. Been alive for 44 years ,if you have been blending pipe tobacco that long thats pretty cool. That and 1$ will get you a small coffee in a 7-11.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kevin7 View Post
    Don't see any mention of your name in that post Dan.
    No, but you said "this is why..." so therefore you were referring to something or someone in this thread, and as I am the only new member in this thread, it can be logically deduced that you were referring to me.

    And the Short Story is NOT a true Hemingway. I found the article.
    http://www.cigaraficionado.com/Cigar...47,251,00.html

    "Soon after that, the Fuentes released the Short Story, which has the distinctive Hemingway shape, but is not a Hemingway, said Wayne Suarez, a Fuente executive."
    Last edited by Dan; 01-27-2009 at 02:15 AM.

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    well I'll be!
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    Quote Originally Posted by logan37 View Post
    It doesn't prove your point. The tobacco blend used in every single Hemingway is the same. The proportions of each particular tobacco, in the blend, is slightly different in each size.

    I think you're misusing the word "blend" as it's used in cigar terms. Blend is the combination of tobaccos used in the filler of a cigar. Every single line of cigars has the same blend of tobacco within that line. The proportions vary in each size of that line, but the blend is the same. i.e. every single A.F. Hemingway cigar has the same blend used in them, every single Don Lino Africa cigar has the same blend used in them, so on and so forth.

    All A.F. Hemingways are "true" Hemingways.
    That's right, and while we're talking proportions don't forget the binder and wrapper which also affect the flavors. Example, a Short Story is a 48 ring guage and a Masterpiece is a 52. Taking a cross section of each cigar, the Short Story would actually have a higher percentage of wrapper to filler than the Masterpiece. Therefore you would be tasting more wrapper with the Short Story. If you continue to shrink the size, the wrapper would increase in proportion to the filler until finally you would have a rolled up wrapper.

    Also, a smaller ring guage nearly always burns hotter than a larger (considering that they are smoked at the same rate and the RH is the same). IMO a Short Story is best when smoked very slowly, just barely kept lit. You can really get that earthy/leathery taste. Since I usually select them when I'm short on time, I rush and smoke too fast, knowing that I'm wasting some really good tobacco.

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