Cohiba Espledidos Authentic Cigars in Sealed Box

webworm13 · 12-28-2010, 01:21 PM

Originally Posted by CoventryCat86

And if he smokes the cigar and determines it's fake then he is under no obligation to give you $200.00 for a box of fake cigars. You agree to those terms, right sparky?

And I expect the skies to open and drop a billions dollars worth of gold bullion in my back yard this afternoon.

tapeworm13, I don't know you or anything about you and I don't trust you at all. Get used to it.

Of course, if it is a fake then he doesn't have to pay me. I can't make him pay me anyways and truth be told, I don't think he would pony up and pay the $200 even if he KNEW they were real. This is why I am going to call his bluff and send him one free of charge with a nice leather Cohiba cigar holder even though he doesn't deserve it.

I bet many couldn't even tell the difference between a real and a fake anyways. I sure couldn't but then again, I am not a cigar smoker.

**EGQ** · 12-28-2010, 01:54 PM

Originally Posted by webworm13

Of course, if it is a fake then he doesn't have to pay me. I can't make him pay me anyways and truth be told, I don't think he would pony up and pay the $200 even if he KNEW they were real. This is why I am going to call his bluff and send him one free of charge with a nice leather Cohiba cigar holder even though he doesn't deserve it.

I bet many couldn't even tell the difference between a real and a fake anyways. I sure couldn't but then again, I am not a cigar smoker.

Surely if I KNEW they were authentic Cohiba Esplendidos I would gladly pony up and pay the $200. I'll do you one better -- if I like them but doubt their authenticity, I'll still buy the box.

Surely you understand where we are coming from by now. We don't take kindly to folks just dropping in and trying to sell goods that they now admit are as likely to be counterfeits as they are to be authentic.

I've smoked my fair share of legit Cubans, could I pick a real and a fake in a blind taste test? -- well, I guess that depends on how bad the fake is... I'll give the stick an honest once over and post my opinion here for all to see. Like it or not, my contention that it is more likely than not that they aren't authentic is still proper.

Just so I can properly asses the cigar -- when was it acquired? Has it been properly stored?

webworm13 · 12-28-2010, 02:24 PM

Originally Posted by EGQ

Surely if I KNEW they were authentic Cohiba Esplendidos I would gladly pony up and pay the $200. I'll do you one better -- if I like them but doubt their authenticity, I'll still buy the box.

Surely you understand where we are coming from by now. We don't take kindly to folks just dropping in and trying to sell goods that they now admit are as likely to be counterfeits as they are to be authentic.

I've smoked my fair share of legit Cubans, could I pick a real and a fake in a blind taste test? -- well, I guess that depends on how bad the fake is... I'll give the stick an honest once over and post my opinion here for all to see. Like it or not, my contention that it is more likely than not that they aren't authentic is still proper.

Just so I can properly asses the cigar -- when was it acquired? Has it been properly stored?

The cigars were acquired by me in early October and have been stored in the boxes since then. I am currently trying to post more pictures, but I am getting errors while trying to upload. I have taken 15 pictures more of the cigars with the certificate of authenticity and serial number. Now the certificate of authenticity could be fake too, who knows, but hopefully you will be able to tell right off hand when you light it up. I trust they are legit as the presentation in the box and the certificate of authenticity seems like it would have taken a lot of effort to fabricate. Your package has been sent to the nearest post office for shipment and I will PM you a delivery confirmation number when it is sent.

I understand people don't take kindly to somebody just dropping by to sell some cigars on this forum dedicated to cigar smokers; however, I thought about selling them on ebay and craigslist but thought it would first be best to try on a forum of people dedicated to the hobby. I figured I could get a better price here and deal with people more appreciative of the merchandise for sale. Apparently, I was wrong in my assumption and I probably would have done best just to sell them on Ebay or Craigslist to begin with. At least there I wouldn't have had to put up with all the bad attitudes.

webworm13 · 12-28-2010, 02:38 PM

I have uploaded more pictures for all to peruse.

http://picasaweb.google.com/webworm1...Ga7qfG_vmDrwE#

**mrtr33** · 12-28-2010, 02:44 PM

Originally Posted by webworm13

I have uploaded more pictures for all to peruse.
http://picasaweb.google.com/webworm1...Ga7qfG_vmDrwE#

Hey! I don't see any tiger costumes, unicycles, or pictures of Kirstie in any of your photos!

**ashauler** · 12-28-2010, 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by webworm13

I have uploaded more pictures for all to peruse.

http://picasaweb.google.com/webworm1...Ga7qfG_vmDrwE#

Can't read the fake serial number there nibbletapeworm. Is there a code stamped on the box somewhere?

webworm13 · 12-28-2010, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by ashauler

Can't read the fake serial number there nibbletapeworm. Is there a code stamped on the box somewhere?

Look closer at another picture. I am sure if you try a little harder you can read it.

**ashauler** · 12-28-2010, 02:56 PM

Originally Posted by webworm13

Look closer at another picture. I am sure if you try a little harder you can read it.

Why don't you just type it out in a post? Certainly you can't be that lazy. And is there a code stamped somewhere on the box?

**cigarsarge** · 12-28-2010, 02:40 PM

Originally Posted by webworm13

I figured I could get a better price here and deal with people more appreciative of the merchandise for sale.

So it appears you are trying to fuck people that know their stuff and become a whinny bitch when they resist the fucking. You are a nibblet...A niblett being that tiny turd that spins around the toilet bowl refusing to be flushed no matter how many times the handle is pulled.

webworm13 · 12-28-2010, 02:52 PM

Originally Posted by cigarsarge

So it appears you are trying to fuck people that know their stuff and become a whinny bitch when they resist the fucking. You are a nibblet...A niblett being that tiny turd that spins around the toilet bowl refusing to be flushed no matter how many times the handle is pulled.

I am not whining, I am simply refuting claims that I am 1) selling Counterfeit cigars 2) not in posession of the cigars 3) or that I am trying to swindle anybody.

I assume your perception that I am trying to swindle forum members is based on your evaluation of the pictures where you have in fact determined these are counterfeit?

Are you an expert on Cohibas? If so, enlighten us with your expert opinon as to what in particular in the picture is inauthentic compared to how genuine Cohibas are packaged.

As I have stated previously, the cigars pictured were sold to me as Cohiba Esplendidos in Cuba. Even if they were inauthentic, I am asking a fair price and if they are genuwine, whoever ends up buying them is getting a heck of a deal.

**cigarsarge** · 12-28-2010, 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by webworm13

I am not whining, I am simply refuting claims that I am 1) selling Counterfeit cigars 2) not in posession of the cigars 3) or that I am trying to swindle anybody.

I assume your perception that I am trying to swindle forum members is based on your evaluation of the pictures where you have in fact determined these are counterfeit?

Are you an expert on Cohibas? If so, enlighten us with your expert opinon as to what in particular in the picture is inauthentic compared to how genuine Cohibas are packaged.

As I have stated previously, the cigars pictured were sold to me as Cohiba Esplendidos in Cuba. Even if they were inauthentic, I am asking a fair price and if they are genuwine, whoever ends up buying them is getting a heck of a deal.

OK niblett...You state you have no knowledge of cigars in any form of fashion. That makes my opinion much more credible. I've smoked cigars for 20 years. During my time in cigars I've heard your story thousands of times. Nobody gets real Cuban cigars from a cousin or friend that just happens to have a contact that can acquire Cohibas.

You got fucked and are trying to pass the fucking to us...

Just who are you...I'm getting the feeling you might not be who you say you are. Guess an IP check is in order.

webworm13 · 12-28-2010, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by cigarsarge

OK niblett...You state you have no knowledge of cigars in any form of fashion. That makes my opinion much more credible. I've smoked cigars for 20 years. During my time in cigars I've heard your story thousands of times. Nobody gets real Cuban cigars from a cousin or friend that just happens to have a contact that can acquire Cohibas.

You got fucked and are trying to pass the fucking to us...

Just who are you...I'm getting the feeling you might not be who you say you are. Guess an IP check is in order.

Okay, since you have smoked for twenty years, what about the box and presentation shows they are fake? Enlighten me with your knowledge. I didn't get swindled by my cousin, as I didn't pay very much for these because I acquired them in the country of origin. Even if I had paid $200 for them myself and they were fake, it would still be a good deal for 25 cigars that came from Cuba. Check my IP all you want. I am who I say I am. Simply a person with family in Cuba who acquired these cigars and is trying to sell them on this forum for a reasonable price. If you don't want them, your loss will be somebody else's gain and you can keep smoking your inferior quality cigars. Fine by me.

**CoventryCat86** · 12-28-2010, 01:56 PM

Originally Posted by webworm13

This is why I am going to call his bluff and send him one free of charge with a nice leather Cohiba cigar holder even though he doesn't deserve it.

Just a suggestion, maybe you ought to drop the attitude.

Originally Posted by webworm13

I bet many couldn't even tell the difference between a real and a fake anyways. I sure couldn't but then again, I am not a cigar smoker.

I'll take your bet, how much are you going to bet me that "many" can't tell the difference between a real and a fake? Just about anyone who has smoked Cuban cigars before can immediately tell the difference between real Cuban cigars and fake Cuban cigars.

As you just admitted, you don't know what you're talking about anyway so why do you continue to act like such an asshole?

**buzz** · 12-28-2010, 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by webworm13

This is why I am going to call his bluff and send him one free of charge with a nice leather Cohiba cigar holder even though he doesn't deserve it.

If you send a free one to ashauler, cigarsarge, CoventryCat, and ggiese with a fancy leather Cohiba cigar holder each and they smoke them and say that they are real then I'll buy the box off you.

Call my bluff?

-Buzz