Middle east outcome

[WhiteWidow]

Is this the viewpoint that we are supposed to "understand?"

source: http://www.eretzyisroel.org/~jkatz/bosnia.html

Hizbollah "Swearing in ceremony"

Many Arab political parties had their roots as resistance movements sympathetic to Nazi expansion in the Middle East. Since that time, Islamic armies and militias have identified with, and adopted symbols from, Nazi propaganda.

Date: Iran, December 2003

[SmokinDVM]

Is this the viewpoint that we are supposed to "understand?"

source: http://www.eretzyisroel.org/~jkatz/bosnia.html

Hizbollah "Swearing in ceremony"

Many Arab political parties had their roots as resistance movements sympathetic to Nazi expansion in the Middle East. Since that time, Islamic armies and militias have identified with, and adopted symbols from, Nazi propaganda.

Date: Iran, December 2003

Don't get started with nazis. If you want to talk about connections to nazis, follow this link.

The Bush family is chock full of nazi racist pricks.

[WhiteWidow]

Dude, I'm not talking about connections to Nazis, look for yourself, these guys were and are Nazis.

I'm not even making an argument for/against/about Bush or the US, I'm simply trying to point out the scum that Hezbollah is.

[SmokinDVM]

Dude, I'm not talking about connections to Nazis, look for yourself, these guys were and are Nazis.

I'm not even making an argument for/against/about Bush or the US, I'm simply trying to point out the scum that Hezbollah is.

They may be scum, but they're duly and democratically elected scum. They've done more to rebuild Lebanon than anyone else, mostly because no-one else in the country had as much cash.
The problem is it's now acceptable, per dumbya's lead, to solve every problem by military force. Damn the diplomacy.

BTW, dumbya and his group were, and still are, nazis. Fascist assholes.

[thepyrofish]

Fascists, perhaps. That's your opinion. I very much doubt though, that the current US administration has any political affiliation with the Third Reich. Certain word, Nazi for one, should not be thrown around so cavalierly in my opinion. I'm not real goodwith US politics, following all the BS in my own country is hard enough, but I'm pretty sure you can make a point without throwing those kind of words around. While I don't agree with everything the American government does, I don't see them lining up homosexuals and Jews to the gas chambers. A little civility in your arguments, from all sides, is all I ask.

[SmokinDVM]

Fascists, perhaps. That's your opinion. I very much doubt though, that the current US administration has any political affiliation with the Third Reich. Certain word, Nazi for one, should not be thrown around so cavalierly in my opinion. I'm not real goodwith US politics, following all the BS in my own country is hard enough, but I'm pretty sure you can make a point without throwing those kind of words around. While I don't agree with everything the American government does, I don't see them lining up homosexuals and Jews to the gas chambers. A little civility in your arguments, from all sides, is all I ask.

Not that they don't want to, they just haven't had enough time yet.

[cigar no baka]

Fascists, perhaps. That's your opinion. I very much doubt though, that the current US administration has any political affiliation with the Third Reich. Certain word, Nazi for one, should not be thrown around so cavalierly in my opinion. I'm not real goodwith US politics, following all the BS in my own country is hard enough, but I'm pretty sure you can make a point without throwing those kind of words around. While I don't agree with everything the American government does, I don't see them lining up homosexuals and Jews to the gas chambers. A little civility in your arguments, from all sides, is all I ask.

Well, SVDM can say what he wants, but as long as things are this heated in the Politics forum, I won't be replying to any of this posts nor reading them as there is no discussing this with him, his mind appears to be made up and he has quite a bit of anger to get off his chest.

[SmokinDVM]

Well, SVDM can say what he wants, but as long as things are this heated in the Politics forum, I won't be replying to any of this posts nor reading them as there is no discussing this with him, his mind appears to be made up and he has quite a bit of anger to get off his chest.

I have a lot of anger?

[bigpoppapuff]

Well, SVDM can say what he wants, but as long as things are this heated in the Politics forum, I won't be replying to any of this posts nor reading them as there is no discussing this with him, his mind appears to be made up and he has quite a bit of anger to get off his chest.

pot,meet kettle...kettle,meet pot...

[WhiteWidow]

The problem is it's now acceptable, per dumbya's lead, to solve every problem by military force. Damn the diplomacy.

Then I volunteer you to go over and try and use any kind of logical reasoning with someone like Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah.

[Shelby07]

Just an observation here. Have you noticed that the mainstream news media has dropped the importance of Iraq since Israel started in on Lebanon. Kind of drives home the fickleness of the news media, doesn't it? I haven't heard word one about Iraq in over a week. Makes you wonder who's driving foreign policy and public opinion.

[thepyrofish]

Just an observation here. Have you noticed that the mainstream news media has dropped the importance of Iraq since Israel started in on Lebanon. Kind of drives home the fickleness of the news media, doesn't it? I haven't heard word one about Iraq in over a week. Makes you wonder who's driving foreign policy and public opinion.

I won't claim to know much about foreign policy, but I've never doubted that the media controls public opinion. Even being able to acknowledge that fact I still find myself getting caught up in whatever the TV wants me to care about today. They've had a lot of practice.

[SuperChuck]

Do Independents get to referee?

We have two fouls on the play. Illegal use of Nazi links on the conservatives AND on the liberals. The penalties offset, repeat the down.

Before WWII, the US had a policy of non-involvement in European affairs. This created very strange relationships with Nazi Germany. Up until the invasion of Poland, everything was cool with Germany. Even their invasions of France and Czech were shrugged off as taking what was theirs.

Even after Poland was invaded, the US wasn't terribly interested in the war in Europe. Even when the US leadership was starting to get worried, US businesses were operating in Germany.

Imagine if...
Israel currently occupies part of Palestine and might invade Lebanon. What if they decide to take advantage of the situation and just occupy Palestine and the Moslem parts of Lebanon? The US would probably shrug that off. The UN might write a strongly-worded letter, but I doubt there would be any sort of sanctions placed on Israel.

Certainly, US companies would be free to do business with Israel and no one would shun them for doing so. It would be business as usual.

But what if Israel then decided they were sick of this crap and invaded Saudi Arabia or Jordan or the United Arab Emirates or something? That would start raising eyebrows. A lot of companies would have to come to the reality of dealing with Israel. Can we continue to sell them arms? Food? Toasters? Can US companies employ their software developers? Can we evacuate a programmer that also worked on Israeli military software?

That's pretty much what US companies faced at the onset of what would become WWII.

(Disclaimer: I'm not suggesting the Israeli government would do such a thing; they're just an easy example)

[Kenyth]

A common mudslinging tactic is to curse those or their anscestors. for doing something before it was considered illegal or immoral