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[Kenyth]

Again, BECAUSE IT OFFENDS YOU, DOESN'T MEAN IT ISN'T FREE SPEECH.

If it was all white bread and milk toast, there would be no need for the protection of free speech. Life isn't all warm and fuzzy, get used to it.

Shock factor, breaking ordinances, committing misdemeanors? Oh, those are most definitely worse than lies leading to the deaths of thousands, torture, and on and on. It's interesting to know that you're more concerned with a few guys wearing thongs, than anything that might ACTUALLY HURT SOMEONE.

Nope, I am concerned with point one AND point two! I did not say one was more important than the other. The occurance of one does not excuse the other. They are mutually exclusive events. I use my right to vote to attend to points regarding leadership, and support local law enforcement actions to attend to points regarding public disturbances. I accept that my power to change things on points regarding government decisions is limited. I also accept that those in power may treat me unfairly in the pursuit of what they feel are the community's best interests. I don't waggle my dick in public as some sort of media based weapon to make up for it. Only in private to impress the ladies.

[SmokinDVM]

Nope, I am concerned with point one AND point two! I did not say one was more important than the other. The occurance of one does not excuse the other. They are mutually exclusive events. I use my right to vote to attend to points regarding leadership, and support local law enforcement actions to attend to points regarding public disturbances. I accept that my power to change things on points regarding government decisions is limited. I also accept that those in power may treat me unfairly in the pursuit of what they feel are the community's best interests. I don't waggle my dick in public as some sort of media based weapon to make up for it. Only in private to impress the ladies.

The highlighted statement has me very worried.
What about being treated "unfairly", I'll use that here to replace "violate my rights", by those in power, in the pursuit of what they feel are in their OWN best interests?

And, where you waggle it, as long as it's covered with something, is your RIGHT. I won't pay much attention, cause I ain't shopping. Maybe those guys that can't look away, and that it makes soo nervous, need to take a deep reflective look at themselves?

[Kenyth]

The highlighted statement has me very worried.
What about being treated "unfairly", I'll use that here to replace "violate my rights", by those in power, in the pursuit of what they feel are in their OWN best interests?

And, where you waggle it, as long as it's covered with something, is your RIGHT. I won't pay much attention, cause I ain't shopping. Maybe those guys that can't look away, and that it makes soo nervous, need to take a deep reflective look at themselves?

As well you should be worried. People have been worried about the same thing to some degree since time immemorial. It's getting better though. You primarily get fined for indiscetions these days and not put in the stocks in town square to be pelted by rotten vegetables or worse. You seem to take the fact that I accept it, as me condoning it. That's not the case. I simply accept that it will happen to some extent. If the incident is severe enough to warrant it, I will fight it. I am a simple family man. Only one person who can't afford to be the revolutionary. Now, can I be part of a group cause that will help where it matters? Of course I can! A much more effective use of my time and money than drinking a few beers, putting on a G-string, and imitating a cheerleading squad.

I disagree about the right to "waggle". Waggling my dick in public without repercussion is NOT my right. I'm sure I could come up with innumerable laws and ordinances from various cultures to support that. What do you use to support your point of view that you have the right to run around naked, except your opinion?

[SuperChuck]

A much more effective use of my time and money than drinking a few beers, putting on a G-string, and imitating a cheerleading squad.

Guess I should just cross you off my Halloween party list, then...

[Kenyth]

Guess I should just cross you off my Halloween party list, then...

For you SC, I'll make an exception! Do you like black or pink lace better? I'm warning you, I don't wax the bikini line!

[SmokinDVM]

I don't recall talking about anyone being nude, not that there's anything wrong with that, in public. Scantily clad, yes, but not nude.

Last I checked, it wasn't illegal to be seen in a swimming suit, well, maybe in the south, and some of those can be very revealing.

That's part of the rub, here in the U.S., it's OK to glorify violence, but a little nudity, or some sinful sex, and the shit hits the fan.

People need to grow up, and get a perspective about what's really important.

[Kenyth]

I don't recall talking about anyone being nude, not that there's anything wrong with that, in public. Scantily clad, yes, but not nude.

Last I checked, it wasn't illegal to be seen in a swimming suit, well, maybe in the south, and some of those can be very revealing.

That's part of the rub, here in the U.S., it's OK to glorify violence, but a little nudity, or some sinful sex, and the shit hits the fan.

People need to grow up, and get a perspective about what's really important.

Gender correct bathing suit= OK (In an area where shirt and shoes are not required apparel)

Underwear or nude= arrested

Non-gender correct bathing suit= Gray area. You'd have to check the laws. A judge would have to interpret them.