I don't believe it

[SmokinDVM]

You have told me in your last couple of postings that I am not aware of the democratic "plan(s)" for exiting Iraq. You have said that all I have to do is look for them and I will see them, and have implied that once I see them it will be obvious to me how wonderful they are. In a sense, you have accused me of being a mindless zombie who listens to the FOX news network 24 hours a day and doesn't have the ability or the desire to think for myself. Did it occur to you that perhaps I had seen these "plans" and I don't think they are 1) better than what we are doing now or 2) viable? I am familiar with John Murtha's "plan" and also Kerry's "plan." You forgot to mention Al Gore, Joseph Biden, Hillary Clinton and Bob Graham. I have seen their proposals. I don't think they are any better than the Republican plan, and, in fact, I believe them to be less productive. It is all rethoric and political posturing.

All of the “news” stations aside, do you really believe that the “stay the course” plan, leaving our troops in Iraq to act as targets for the insurgents (make no mistake, most of the “insurgents” aren’t terrorists as the dumbya admin. would like you to believe. They are Iraqi’s that want us out, just like the other 99% of the Iraqi population) is a good plan? Do you really think we’re winning the “hearts and minds”, or are we just creating more potential terrorists with every Iraqi death? How long do you think we can maintain a viable military presence in Iraq? How long before we have to bring back the Draft? Do you believe the neopuke plan is going to suddenly start to work, or are you willing to sacrifice unknown generations of our children to their cause? Do you think that our presence in Iraq will stop terrorist activity from continuing elsewhere (it has already been proven false with the current events in England)? Do you like the neopuke plan to pull 20 or 30 thousand troops out of Iraq in October, so they can gain a boost for the elections, and then send them back again? Is that political posturing? Would it be necessary if they really had a viable plan for ending our occupation in Iraq?
I don’t consider you a mindless zombie, however, I do consider anyone who supports the “no plan” plan to be insane. Insane in that they do something over and over again, getting the same disastrous result every time, but expecting a different one each time.

I have heard basically 3 plans from various democrats, and rather than point to their articles, I will tell you in my own words what I heard them say. One involves withdrawing from Iraq immediately, Another involves setting a date for withdrawal or troop redeployment concentrate on training the Iraqi's to defend themselves (basically Bush's plan with a deadline) and the third is to redeploy troops into other areas where terrorists are. Well, in my mind, immediate withdrawal of all of our troops from the middle east will simply empower the terrorists who have vowed on their God to kill us. Setting a time line for a withdrawal will cause the terrorists to lay low until we leave, then there will be a blood bath since the Iraqi military is not yet ready to defend themselves against terrorists. Of course, Joe Biden would like to leave a single brigade in Iraq to take care of the "hot spots" that arise here and there after we leave. Again, the enemy (and rest assured, they are our "enemy") would just lay low until we leave then make short work of the Iraqi forces as well as our "hung out" brigade. In the third plan, which seems to be the one repeated by most democrats, we should not bring our troops home, but instead redeploy them to wherever the terrorists are. Well, quite frankly, that would be just about every other country in the middle east except Israel. Do we invade southern Lebanon to wipe out the Hezbollas or invade Northern Pakistan where there are Al Queda strongholds? Do we send troops to Iran, jordon and Syria? And what about Korea. What about terrorist cells in Europe? Do we redeploy our troops there too? In my mind, the democratic "plans" are not viable.

Your main argument against all of the aforementioned plans is based on the incorrect assumption, which just happens to be the neopukes talking point and reason given for remaining in Iraq, that the insurgents in Iraq are actually terrorists. They are not. Ninety five percent of them are Iraqis that just want us to leave.
As to your question about where the Al Qaeda strongholds are, that’s exactly the problem with the “war” in Iraq. There are no “strongholds”, but rather a very loose connection of groups affiliated with them, spread throughout the World. So, why would continued action in Iraq deter them in any way? It wouldn’t. And, as has been proven in England and Spain, our resources would be much better utilized in the creation and implementation of intelligence operations to find, track, and neutralize the individual groups of terrorists, and to actually work towards the security of our own borders.