Muslim Democracies in the Mid-East

[Monk]

This gives us every reason to find alternative energy sources to oil. Imagine a day where oil is worth $2 a barrel for certain industrial uses, and all cars run on fuel cells, batteries, etc and we get our energy from sources other than oil. It will happen one day, it may not be in our lifetimes though. Then they can sell their oil for $2 per barrel and run their own lives. I can't wait for both to happen.

Absolutely! Not to mention fossil fuels and the pollution problems. The problem is that industry doesn't want to use those alternatives, doesn't want to invest the money, and the oil industries control a hell of a lot. Wind is a viable option, hybrid cars, solar power, all things that can help bring Winter back to Canada . Seriously, the planet is screwed and we are all going to be the big losers in this.

-W.

[cigar no baka]

Absolutely! Not to mention fossil fuels and the pollution problems. The problem is that industry doesn't want to use those alternatives, doesn't want to invest the money, and the oil industries control a hell of a lot. Wind is a viable option, hybrid cars, solar power, all things that can help bring Winter back to Canada . Seriously, the planet is screwed and we are all going to be the big losers in this.

-W.

Well, I bet some day soon (next 50 years or so), cold fusion is going to be a reality, and our energy needs will be met. Just come home, plug your fuel cell car into that big plug in the garage, and your car is ready to go every morning!! Yay, don't need gas any more, oil prices will drop into the bucket, and all those countries that have oil megabucks won't have them anymore.

[jiaguy]

Well, I bet some day soon (next 50 years or so), cold fusion is going to be a reality, and our energy needs will be met. Just come home, plug your fuel cell car into that big plug in the garage, and your car is ready to go every morning!! Yay, don't need gas any more, oil prices will drop into the bucket, and all those countries that have oil megabucks won't have them anymore.

Unfortunately i don't think cold fusion works. but hot fusion does and they are building the first reactor in France, if it works well than that is nuclear wasteless energy.

But yeah indeed the middle is keeping quiet...Winston Churchill once said something of that as I am sure you are all aware.

[Cabaiguan Juan]

Absolutely! Not to mention fossil fuels and the pollution problems. The problem is that industry doesn't want to use those alternatives, doesn't want to invest the money, and the oil industries control a hell of a lot. Wind is a viable option, hybrid cars, solar power, all things that can help bring Winter back to Canada . Seriously, the planet is screwed and we are all going to be the big losers in this.

-W.

and winter back to DC! I think the middle east could be a great place to decomission the worlds nuclear bombs, and by decomission i mean detonate. Kind of like whipping the chaulk board clean and starting over.

[Monk]

and winter back to DC! I think the middle east could be a great place to decomission the worlds nuclear bombs, and by decomission i mean detonate. Kind of like whipping the chaulk board clean and starting over.

Same argument would be made by some about the U.S.A. I might point out.



-W.

[Cabaiguan Juan]

Same argument would be made by some about the U.S.A. I might point out.



-W.

yeah, i suppose. You bring up good points about Middle Eastern folks being mad at us medling with their affairs. I dont think democracy will work for everyone, but the un-ending violance in the middle east between jews and muslims and muslim/muslim is getting old. It would be nice if the news had something else to report other then the fighting thats been going on over there for centuries. I'm also a little biased towards the US.

[Monk]

yeah, i suppose. You bring up good points about Middle Eastern folks being mad at us medling with their affairs. I dont think democracy will work for everyone, but the un-ending violance in the middle east between jews and muslims and muslim/muslim is getting old. It would be nice if the news had something else to report other then the fighting thats been going on over there for centuries. I'm also a little biased towards the US.

Fair enough, I'm biased towards Canada, and having grown up in the Middle East as a teenager I understand the region a bit more, hence my opinions (which are LARGE and varied on this topic ). I'd be very sad to see it all go up in a puff of smoke from either side. The points I bring up can be paralleled with how the US felt when the British were meddling in their affairs... and look what happened there! The American Revolution


I think the news (especially in North America) needs to be taken with a grain of salt. Fear and death sell papers, sadly, so you don't get a clear picture. Lets not forget there are many, many, Jews in Lebanon, and Arabs in Israel. They get along for the most part. It is the radicals and the "uneducated" or "uninformed" who don't know better. Not to mention that with the "meddling" (your words ) all the foreign policy of the past 6 years has just resulted in a real polarisation on the issue. Look at your comment above, 6 years ago you might not have said that, but with polarisation on both ends of the spectrum you end up with a large divide and a failure to meet in the middle on issues. Not saying this is in your case, just a comment on how things keep getting so bad there.

-W.

[Cabaiguan Juan]

Fair enough, I'm biased towards Canada, and having grown up in the Middle East as a teenager I understand the region a bit more, hence my opinions (which are LARGE and varied on this topic ). I'd be very sad to see it all go up in a puff of smoke from either side. The points I bring up can be paralleled with how the US felt when the British were meddling in their affairs... and look what happened there! The American Revolution


I think the news (especially in North America) needs to be taken with a grain of salt. Fear and death sell papers, sadly, so you don't get a clear picture. Lets not forget there are many, many, Jews in Lebanon, and Arabs in Israel. They get along for the most part. It is the radicals and the "uneducated" or "uninformed" who don't know better. Not to mention that with the "meddling" (your words ) all the foreign policy of the past 6 years has just resulted in a real polarisation on the issue. Look at your comment above, 6 years ago you might not have said that, but with polarisation on both ends of the spectrum you end up with a large divide and a failure to meet in the middle on issues. Not saying this is in your case, just a comment on how things keep getting so bad there.

-W.

Damn spelling! (meddling) Anyway, I know the news needs to be taken with a grain of salt, but a picture is worth a thousand words. If i had grown up, or spend any substancial time abroad i probably would have a better understanding of world affairs, opinions etc. Anyway, your point about the British and the US makes sense to me, and I can understand your point of view.

[Monk]

Damn spelling! (meddling) Anyway, I know the news needs to be taken with a grain of salt, but a picture is worth a thousand words. If i had grown up, or spend any substancial time abroad i probably would have a better understanding of world affairs, opinions etc. Anyway, your point about the British and the US makes sense to me, and I can understand your point of view.

I think both our points of view can be summarised in "Why can't we all just get along and smoke a nice cigar!"

-W.