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    Quote Originally Posted by Cabaiguan Juan View Post
    and winter back to DC! I think the middle east could be a great place to decomission the worlds nuclear bombs, and by decomission i mean detonate. Kind of like whipping the chaulk board clean and starting over.
    Same argument would be made by some about the U.S.A. I might point out.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Monk View Post
    Same argument would be made by some about the U.S.A. I might point out.



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    yeah, i suppose. You bring up good points about Middle Eastern folks being mad at us medling with their affairs. I dont think democracy will work for everyone, but the un-ending violance in the middle east between jews and muslims and muslim/muslim is getting old. It would be nice if the news had something else to report other then the fighting thats been going on over there for centuries. I'm also a little biased towards the US.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cabaiguan Juan View Post
    yeah, i suppose. You bring up good points about Middle Eastern folks being mad at us medling with their affairs. I dont think democracy will work for everyone, but the un-ending violance in the middle east between jews and muslims and muslim/muslim is getting old. It would be nice if the news had something else to report other then the fighting thats been going on over there for centuries. I'm also a little biased towards the US.
    Fair enough, I'm biased towards Canada, and having grown up in the Middle East as a teenager I understand the region a bit more, hence my opinions (which are LARGE and varied on this topic ). I'd be very sad to see it all go up in a puff of smoke from either side. The points I bring up can be paralleled with how the US felt when the British were meddling in their affairs... and look what happened there! The American Revolution


    I think the news (especially in North America) needs to be taken with a grain of salt. Fear and death sell papers, sadly, so you don't get a clear picture. Lets not forget there are many, many, Jews in Lebanon, and Arabs in Israel. They get along for the most part. It is the radicals and the "uneducated" or "uninformed" who don't know better. Not to mention that with the "meddling" (your words ) all the foreign policy of the past 6 years has just resulted in a real polarisation on the issue. Look at your comment above, 6 years ago you might not have said that, but with polarisation on both ends of the spectrum you end up with a large divide and a failure to meet in the middle on issues. Not saying this is in your case, just a comment on how things keep getting so bad there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monk View Post
    Fair enough, I'm biased towards Canada, and having grown up in the Middle East as a teenager I understand the region a bit more, hence my opinions (which are LARGE and varied on this topic ). I'd be very sad to see it all go up in a puff of smoke from either side. The points I bring up can be paralleled with how the US felt when the British were meddling in their affairs... and look what happened there! The American Revolution


    I think the news (especially in North America) needs to be taken with a grain of salt. Fear and death sell papers, sadly, so you don't get a clear picture. Lets not forget there are many, many, Jews in Lebanon, and Arabs in Israel. They get along for the most part. It is the radicals and the "uneducated" or "uninformed" who don't know better. Not to mention that with the "meddling" (your words ) all the foreign policy of the past 6 years has just resulted in a real polarisation on the issue. Look at your comment above, 6 years ago you might not have said that, but with polarisation on both ends of the spectrum you end up with a large divide and a failure to meet in the middle on issues. Not saying this is in your case, just a comment on how things keep getting so bad there.

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    Damn spelling! (meddling) Anyway, I know the news needs to be taken with a grain of salt, but a picture is worth a thousand words. If i had grown up, or spend any substancial time abroad i probably would have a better understanding of world affairs, opinions etc. Anyway, your point about the British and the US makes sense to me, and I can understand your point of view.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cabaiguan Juan View Post
    Damn spelling! (meddling) Anyway, I know the news needs to be taken with a grain of salt, but a picture is worth a thousand words. If i had grown up, or spend any substancial time abroad i probably would have a better understanding of world affairs, opinions etc. Anyway, your point about the British and the US makes sense to me, and I can understand your point of view.
    I think both our points of view can be summarised in "Why can't we all just get along and smoke a nice cigar!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monk View Post
    I think both our points of view can be summarised in "Why can't we all just get along and smoke a nice cigar!"

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    yup, pretty much!
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