I think I quit...

[guzziwrydr]

religious???...it can NEVER get better......please,emp...run away....

I'm not sure I understand the religious aspect. I mean you're a hired killer, really. Whats the big deal if you smoke.

Listen, seriously,you're about my son's age. Before he married I told him that he had to be ready to give his every waking moment to her. Not because she wanted it but because he did. And she should feel the same way for him. If either one of them could not commit to that, if there were aspects of the other they could not look past or get over, then walk away now. Those things grow and fester and before you know it the women you vowed to spend the rest of your life with is the person you hate the most. You can never be truly happy unless she supports you in what you do and vice versa.

My wife hates smoking. She can't tolerate it from a physical standpoint. But she knows how much I enjoy it and NEVER complains about it. For my part I NEVER put her in a situation where she is in contact with it. It's something I enjoy, not one of the things we do together. Emp, I encourage to talk to your gal about more that the cigar issue. This sounds a little extreme but you should make a list of all the things you care about and your dreams and aspirations and she should too, Compare lists. If they're too different you guys need to re-consider your next steps.

[bigpoppapuff]

I'm not sure I understand the religious aspect. I mean you're a hired killer, really. Whats the big deal if you smoke.

Listen, seriously,you're about my son's age. Before he married I told him that he had to be ready to give his every waking moment to her. Not because she wanted it but because he did. And she should feel the same way for him. If either one of them could not commit to that, if there were aspects of the other they could not look past or get over, then walk away now. Those things grow and fester and before you know it the women you vowed to spend the rest of your life with is the person you hate the most. You can never be truly happy unless she supports you in what you do and vice versa.

My wife hates smoking. She can't tolerate it from a physical standpoint. But she knows how much I enjoy it and NEVER complains about it. For my part I NEVER put her in a situation where she is in contact with it. It's something I enjoy, not one of the things we do together. Emp, I encourage to talk to your gal about more that the cigar issue. This sounds a little extreme but you should make a list of all the things you care about and your dreams and aspirations and she should too, Compare lists. If they're too different you guys need to re-consider your next steps.

what you say,guzz makes an awful lot of sense...emp...please take heed of what we've all said...you were put on earth to have a life.....try to enjoy yours......i don't really see how it can work with this girl...

[ashauler]

My wife hates smoking. She can't tolerate it from a physical standpoint. But she knows how much I enjoy it and NEVER complains about it. For my part I NEVER put her in a situation where she is in contact with it. It's something I enjoy, not one of the things we do together. Emp, I encourage to talk to your gal about more that the cigar issue. This sounds a little extreme but you should make a list of all the things you care about and your dreams and aspirations and she should too, Compare lists. If they're too different you guys need to re-consider your next steps.

Exactly the same situation that my wife and I have. I have created a cozy little spot in my garage where I can work on my laptop, read the paper, do some woodworking, whatever and enjoy my smoke. My wife likes to do crafts and junk so she has a room in the house with her stuff there, when she wants to work on crafts I smoke or vice-versa, or neither.....works out great. Understanding, empathy, and comprimise......LOVE!

BTW, I am a reforming cig smoker, so I used to spend a s-load of time in the garage compared to what I do now......and she loved me back then too.

[Empire23]

Wow. I never thought this thread would go on like this. I have though taken everything you said into account. Shes actually out of the state right now and I already know how Im going to deal with it. Its going to be up to her if she wants to stay together, but I dont know if shes going to want to after she hears what I have to say.

[slcraiders]

Wow is right bro. the thread states " I think", yet other posts go deeper: such as- religious reasons. What religious reasons? I do not know of a church besides the Mormon church that condones smoking?

Small, minor habit compared to most. Shit!

[Empire23]

Wow is right bro. the thread states " I think", yet other posts go deeper: such as- religious reasons. What religious reasons? I do not know of a church besides the Mormon church that condones smoking?

Small, minor habit compared to most. Shit!

Well actually she is Mormon and shes out of town right now because shes in Utah visiting her family. I have no problem with Mormons or the religion or I wouldnt be dating a Mormon. My best friend also happens to be a Mormon too, but I didnt meet her through him.

Im basically going to tell her that its her decision if she wants to continue to see me after the things that have been going on between us. Not the smoking and drinking because thats just a minor issue right now. Theres alot more things that are a part in this that play a bigger part of will we stay together or not.

[Brewdude]

Dude, with all due respect if she's a Mormon I'd get out now as fast as you can. The Mormons, JWs, and several other cult-like religions are so friggin whack I don't even want to talk to them.

Mormon, jeez.........

[Shelby07]

I've worked with and have had many friends who are Mormon. They are actually wonderful people. I have enjoyed their friendship over the years and have never had anyone try to talk me into anything or give the slightest hint of judging me in any way. But they are very close knit both personally and professionally and I am sure marriage would present a whole different set of expectations.

[Empire23]

Dude, with all due respect if she's a Mormon I'd get out now as fast as you can. The Mormons, JWs, and several other cult-like religions are so friggin whack I don't even want to talk to them.

Mormon, jeez.........

Do you even know any people of those religions that you just mentioned or its just the stuff you hear word of mouth or through media that you dont like?

My best friend of like 18 years is mormon and he has an awesome family too.

Im not so religious myself, and there is alot of stuff I disagree with from every religion, but there are also alot of things I do agree with form many religions.

[cigarsarge]

Dude, with all due respect if she's a Mormon I'd get out now as fast as you can. The Mormons, JWs, and several other cult-like religions are so friggin whack I don't even want to talk to them.

Mormon, jeez.........

Brewdude is absolutly correct. Giving up cigars and drinks is minor compared to the rest of the story.

[Brewdude]

Wow. I never thought this thread would go on like this. I have though taken everything you said into account. Shes actually out of the state right now and I already know how Im going to deal with it. Its going to be up to her if she wants to stay together, but I dont know if shes going to want to after she hears what I have to say.

Well dammit, spill it out boy! Don't tease us with that statement unless you aren't prepared to share it here.

I sincerely hope you plan to tell her to take you like you are or forget the whole thing.

Never EVER change for a woman. That's wrong on so many levels. And yes I speak from experience.