SmokinDVM Ban Poll

[Lopaka]

I'm not voting, however I did mention something about this in July...

/soapbox

I know I'm going to piss off a few people however, screw it.

All these POS political posts coming on this board have NOTHING to do with cigars. I'm sick of seeing them. You want to post your political view, fine, go find a political board and post your views.

I'll quote Hex..

I'm not going to go and flat out ban these types of discussion unless they become a major problem. But I do ask that you use your judgment when making these posts. Ask yourself "How will this topic help us grow stronger as a community of Cigar Smokers?". Think before you post. [/COLOR]

Your political views whether right, left, up, down, over the hen who gives a crap…don't help us grow as a community.

If it helps us grow as a community, please post. However posting something as bait so you can spew your nonsense don't help the boards.

/off soapbox

Then people responded and said that it's in the right forum.

This was my response.

I'm not going to argue whether he is the best or worse. That's not my place. I'll allow the Historians to decide that later. However, last time I check this board is Cigarsmokers.com not letbashbushbecauseIhatehisgutsect.com

None of these political posts have anything to do with Cigars. They don't help the community. I know I'm pissing people off. However, I also know that there are people that are also not happy. If you want to have a political debate...then have one. However, the discussions here are not debates. They are bashing of other members because “they don't like my views and everyone who is a Rep/Con/Right are all neonazi BS.” Debate...then debate. Name calling...that's not a debate. That's 12 year old BS. Don't like my view, fine.

However, I'm the one that's asking what this BOARDS admin is asking...

What does it have to do to better the community.

I'm done.

And now look where we are. A banning poll. I admit that I almost stop coming to the board because of the all the political BS that was being posted. You may say that it was in the right forum but it did start to spill into some other spots on the boards. I said it once and I say it again...

If you want to have a political debate...then have one. However, the discussions here are not debates. They are bashing of other members because “they don't like my views and everyone who is a Rep/Con/Right are all neonazi BS.” Debate...then debate. Name calling...that's not a debate. That's 12 year old BS.

It's really a shame that we have come to this point on this board all because of one forum. I really wish people would just put down the guns, lite a nice smoke, and relax. I have no doubt that someone is going to bash this post, fine. Bash away.

[bigpoppapuff]

it seems to be over...except bill isn't done yet....

[ggiese]

it seems to be over...except bill isn't done yet....

You think it's over, Sid? Why - because you SAY it's over?

Yep - you da man, Sid - you da man!!!

Should I shut up now - so you don't start a ban poll for me? What - you skeered, Sid?? C'mon - you know you wanna...

[ggiese]

Interesting that we have a number of members that aren't voting in this - the ones who really matter most to this board.

What's the message in that?

[SmokinDVM]

If you really want to see who causes the biggest problems on CS, you only have to read back through this ban poll thread and ask yourself a couple of questions...

Who really asked for the ban poll? Gee, that's a tough one.

Who just can't seem to let this all go? Again, a real toughy. (hint; answer relates to the first question)

What two bm's (that's board members, don't get yer panties all bunched ) were only able to recruit one other bm to vote with them, and who was it? Jeez, the questions just keep getting tougher and tougher.

What do you think the message is in that?

[CoventryCat86]

If you really want to see who causes the biggest problems on CS, you only have to read back through this ban poll thread and ask yourself a couple of questions...

Who really asked for the ban poll? Gee, that's a tough one.

Who just can't seem to let this all go? Again, a real toughy. (hint; answer relates to the first question)

What two bm's (that's board members, don't get yer panties all bunched ) were only able to recruit one other bm to vote with them, and who was it? Jeez, the questions just keep getting tougher and tougher.

What do you think the message is in that?

"Several" members asked for the ban poll Barry, don't lie like you usually do.

George and I didn't "recruit" or try and influence anyone via phone calls, emails or PMs to vote in this ban poll. I would bet the same thing can't be said about you and Sid but no one cares anyway.

You two continue to show the audience assembled how infantile and immature the both of you are which shocks me.

George made a very interesting point:

Interesting that we have a number of members that aren't voting in this - the ones who really matter most to this board.

Whether you like it or not Barry, there is indeed a "message" there.

[SmokinDVM]

"Several" members asked for the ban poll Barry, don't lie like you usually do.

I simply asked a question, but you really are suspiciously defensive.

George and I didn't "recruit" or try and influence anyone via phone calls, emails or PMs to vote in this ban poll. I would bet the same thing can't be said about you and Sid but no one cares anyway.

How much? Got any proof, or are you just speculating as usual?

You two continue to show the audience assembled how infantile and immature the both of you are which shocks me.

Do you really think people can't see you for what you really are?

George made a very interesting point:


Whether you like it or not Barry, there is indeed a "message" there.

There is indeed a message there. Possibly that they weren't interested in helping you with your little hissy fit. Face it...16, 2, 1...not even close. It's time to stop whining now.

And btw, that avatar was up for less than 24hrs. Stop exaggerating like some drama queen, you're boring all of us.

[SmokinDVM]

"Several" members asked for the ban poll Barry, don't lie like you usually do.

By calling me a liar, you are inferring that you know the exact number of ban requestees. If you don't know, why are you acting like you do, by calling me a liar?

You don't really have to answer that, I already know why.

[heftysmokes]

Interesting that we have a number of members that aren't voting in this - the ones who really matter most to this board.

What's the message in that?

George, what does this say about the 19 people who did vote (and remember you cast your ballot too)?
The guys who pointed out that they would refrain from voting (K7, NH, Lopaka) are all great guys who have my respect. I know they aren't the only ones who abstained from voting but they stated publicly why they weren't. My favorite reason is from K7, "I didnt vote just to show I dont give a fuck about this whole bunch of shit."
Anyway, each one of the non-voters listed has made a point to treat me decently during my time here. However, I would never say that they are more or less valuable to this board than the guys that did vote: guys like Sarge, SLC, BPP, CgarDan, Roham, Newf, and Drew have been extremely generous and gracious brothers, not only to me but to a lot of other newb's who have came and stayed. And George, you were the first person on this board from whom I ever received a package. You've probably sent out enough packages that you forgot you even mailed one my way, but it made a lasting impression on me. It was the first lesson I had on how to be a BOTL.



I'm not for or against anybody at this point. What upsets me is I was under the impression that GG, CC, and BPP used to be pretty good friends. Hell, maybe they still are and they're PMing each other having a good laugh about this...I kinda hope so.
But regardless of who is or isn't friends anymore, can we please, for the love of Pete, bury this corpse? It's really putting out an awful stink.


Aw, fuck it. Maybe I should just follow K7's lead.


And I'd like to apologize for any spelling or grammatical errors above. Even an English teacher can fuck up.

[Shelby07]

Hefty, you are absolutely right. They are all great guys. This whole thread has been absurd. I was simply attempting to magnifying the absurdity. But I am beginning to wonder about Bill. I don't think I did anything but disagree with him. Yet because of that I am now a liar, an asswipe and one of Barry's boys.

[CoventryCat86]

Hefty, you are absolutely right. They are all great guys. This whole thread has been absurd. I was simply attempting to magnifying the absurdity. But I am beginning to wonder about Bill. I don't think I did anything but disagree with him. Yet because of that I am now a liar, an asswipe and one of Barry's boys.

Well, there's what you think and what you actually did which are two very different things. But of course you refuse to see it that way.

[ggiese]

George, what does this say about the 19 people who did vote (and remember you cast your ballot too)?
The guys who pointed out that they would refrain from voting (K7, NH, Lopaka) are all great guys who have my respect. I know they aren't the only ones who abstained from voting but they stated publicly why they weren't. My favorite reason is from K7, "I didnt vote just to show I dont give a fuck about this whole bunch of shit."
Anyway, each one of the non-voters listed has made a point to treat me decently during my time here. However, I would never say that they are more or less valuable to this board than the guys that did vote: guys like Sarge, SLC, BPP, CgarDan, Roham, Newf, and Drew have been extremely generous and gracious brothers, not only to me but to a lot of other newb's who have came and stayed. And George, you were the first person on this board from whom I ever received a package. You've probably sent out enough packages that you forgot you even mailed one my way, but it made a lasting impression on me. It was the first lesson I had on how to be a BOTL.



I'm not for or against anybody at this point. What upsets me is I was under the impression that GG, CC, and BPP used to be pretty good friends. Hell, maybe they still are and they're PMing each other having a good laugh about this...I kinda hope so.
But regardless of who is or isn't friends anymore, can we please, for the love of Pete, bury this corpse? It's really putting out an awful stink.


Aw, fuck it. Maybe I should just follow K7's lead.


And I'd like to apologize for any spelling or grammatical errors above. Even an English teacher can fuck up.

Ya know - you're absolutely correct. In my world - friends don't start trashing friends in public. But some just can't seem to resist for their own selfish reasons. Some apparently want to discard friendships that easily.

I don't so much mind because I like to know where my friends stand with me - that's why I've been with my wife for over 27 years - I always know where I stand with her, even in the heat of battle (she supports me when I need support - I support her when she needs support - and we both know when we're crossing lines and avoid doing it)

I've asked privately for what other members are asking for publically. Apparently some just don't give a damn what me or others think. It's interesting that some (and especially ONE) are interpreting what they're hearing as support for their cause. But - in reality - I don't read it that way - and I can't believe they (and that ONE) isn't.

But all in all - I know where I stand - and that's a good thing in my world...

Hey, Sid - you got that ban poll together yet?? I'm waiting....

[SmokinDVM]

Ya know - you're absolutely correct. In my world - friends don't start trashing friends in public. But some just can't seem to resist for their own selfish reasons. Some apparently want to discard friendships that easily.

They also don't instigate ban polls because they feel all butt-hurt over a percieved insult.

I don't so much mind because I like to know where my friends stand with me - that's why I've been with my wife for over 27 years - I always know where I stand with her, even in the heat of battle (she supports me when I need support - I support her when she needs support - and we both know when we're crossing lines and avoid doing it)

You've been married to CC for over 27 years? That is impressive. You forgot to reign each other in on this one though.

I've asked privately for what other members are asking for publically. Apparently some just don't give a damn what me or others think. It's interesting that some (and especially ONE) are interpreting what they're hearing as support for their cause. But - in reality - I don't read it that way - and I can't believe they (and that ONE) isn't.

I think there are some here who have missed the point...You and CC. See, it isn't about support for me, as much as it is about not agreeing with you and cc's reasons for this whole fiasco. You and CC, joined arguments in the political forum that you knew full well could, and probably would, get heated. When they did, you cry foul, and start a ban poll.

Hey, Sid - you got that ban poll together yet?? I'm waiting....

Sid won't start a ban poll over lame ass shitlike this, unlike some people here.

[cinda]

After what the bay of pigs did for cigars I am wondering why anyone wants to discuss politics on a cigar board, what good can come of it....

[nhcigarfan]

I'm not voting, however I did mention something about this in July...



Then people responded and said that it's in the right forum.

This was my response.



And now look where we are. A banning poll. I admit that I almost stop coming to the board because of the all the political BS that was being posted. You may say that it was in the right forum but it did start to spill into some other spots on the boards. I said it once and I say it again...

If you want to have a political debate...then have one. However, the discussions here are not debates. They are bashing of other members because “they don't like my views and everyone who is a Rep/Con/Right are all neonazi BS.” Debate...then debate. Name calling...that's not a debate. That's 12 year old BS.

It's really a shame that we have come to this point on this board all because of one forum. I really wish people would just put down the guns, lite a nice smoke, and relax. I have no doubt that someone is going to bash this post, fine. Bash away.

I like the post.